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PATRICK

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1. Marketing: Self published and Pubishing Houses
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jul 2012

Of the two alternatives, self-publishing seems the best because in both instances the biggest hurdle is knowledge of marketing worth and methods. Only, by submitting it to the hard to reach and know gatekeepers(agents, editors etc.), it spares one a lot of effort and MAY produce much better results, which best results seem to be rarer so far in the self publication arena. Nowadays the great independent slush pile costs little and be made to order for digital readers and on demand printing. Even advertising has some very inexpensive alternatives. Reaching your best readers seems easier. Not surprisingly, standing out in the crowd and getting bucketfuls of royalties is probably harder in the democratic marketplace.

I'd rather get the work out there immediately with technical help and modest marketing in online places like Amazon's Create Space than play the long guessing games with those big firms who take the biggest cuts IF they decide you fit their company marketing needs- while you essentially remain totally unread and unmarketed, perhaps for years as the readers for agents and houses dwindle, the unsolicited manuscripts multiply. Every hurdle is a high one- and not often visible.

Book trailers on Youtube deepen the puzzle. Mostly they never include a single line of actual text, as good as the writing may actually be. They seem to make all the books seem like weak, cheap, movie script proposals. I suspect no one wants a mere proposal anymore in fiction unless you have a track record, a big name or non-fictional hardcore expertise. The expect the finished work if only for saving themselves time and risk. but they don't want to have to take the time to read them all either.

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Marketing: Self published and Pubishing Houses PATRICK Jul 2012 #1
Thanks. One way or another, my manuscript will be published Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #2
I disagree. For a first novel, legacy publishing makes you stand out. mainer Jul 2012 #3
I am going to make the attempt to get the agent. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #4
A few no-nos on queries mainer Jul 2012 #5
That's spot on. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #6
About queries: focus on the main character and his/her primary crisis mainer Jul 2012 #7
Hopefully I have accomplished that. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #8
Multiply published (legacy publisher) in fiction. mainer Jul 2012 #9
Congratulations on your success! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #10
If you have any specific questions, post them. mainer Jul 2012 #11
Well, the question that I hesitated asking because I thought it was rude... Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #12
"Legacy publishing" is a new-ish term, to distinguish it from self-publishing mainer Jul 2012 #13
Thank you so much mainer! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #14
It has been my experience that there is a very good reason SheilaT Jul 2012 #15
Which is why readers will eventually move back to traditionally published books. mainer Jul 2012 #16
Yep. SheilaT Jul 2012 #17
Yes PATRICK Jul 2012 #18
Agents DO read queries. mainer Jul 2012 #19
I was in a writing workshop about two decades ago, and a SheilaT Jul 2012 #20
In answer to your question about proposals... sybylla Jul 2012 #21
Thanks sybylla: Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #22
If you are planning to send this to an agent, I wouldn't send a first draft. pnwmom Aug 2012 #23
I've been writing manuscripts for so long that I edit as I go along. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #24
Fiction Proposal Electrominuette Aug 2012 #25
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