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gejohnston

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9. Teachers and staff would be targets as well,
Fri May 3, 2019, 06:12 PM
May 2019

Problem is that private guards and urban cops are not anywhere as well trained as the average redneck that learned from their parents, or what I taught first time hunters. Also, anyone can time their attack based on what uniformed guards do.

It seems to me that there is a lot to consider in arming teachers. Just saying bring your gun isn’t the answer.
Why not? That is what some states allow. IIRC, Utah allows CCW holders carry in class. If they are safe and responsible at Wal Mart, why not anywhere else? Also, defensive gun use doesn't require SWAT training (even though there are nine year old girls that wipes the floor with SWAT cops in competition)

You will get everything from .22 derringers to S&W long barrel .44 magnums. Same with ammo.
CCW holders in general generally carry similar weapons. None of them carry such things.
Then there is the issue of training - both range and tactics. These have to be kept current.
Training is a good thing, I know people who go to Gunsite on the regular basis. Wouldn't the tactics be the same as a home invasion? Many teachers my kids had were combat veterans.
How are weapons carried? Stored?
Concealed on their person. The idea is that no one has a clue who is or isn't, or if anyone is or isn't.

In the event of a shooting situation, what do teachers do?
Return fire. Basically, as the defender against an attacker with zero skill and likely to flee or self destruct when resisted, based on past history, just like a homeowner in a home invasion.
How will Leo’s recognize them?
Cops usually show up after its over. Person with holstered pistol and hands up is staff, guy in tacticool outfit bleeding on the floor is the attacker.

That is how it would work in Utah and some other states. Some schools in Missouri have staff trained by firearms trainers with programs geared for school. By the time they graduate, these teachers are better shots than any cop.

If it were me, I would have non teaching staff go through the program and armed with specific pistol and ammo combo. Teachers would be locked down, but still be allowed to carry, if they have CCW, in case the classroom door is breeched because self defense is a fundamental natural and human right that the State has no business infringing on just like speech and privacy.
But then, the current moral panic not withstanding, the odds of being shot at school is one in 614 million. Given the number of kids that die of brain injury or broken neck playing high school football each year, you would save more lives by ending the sport and giving the money to the school newspaper or photography club.

To answer your last question, I have no idea how the Florida law works. Given the state's bipartisan stupidity and corruption, I'm not counting on it being well done.

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