Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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15. Except that the ATF said the

Sun Nov 6, 2016, 08:16 PM

Nov 2016

tracing data does not actually say that. It simply means the guns were purchased in those states at one time. Given that they "time to crime" is over a decade, the evidence does not support it. Not all of them are crime guns, and not all crime guns are traced. Question, how exactly do those gang members buy guns in those states? They certainly don't go to those gun stores, given that the Gun Control Act bans interstate transactions by non-FFL holders. They did not fill out federal forms before NICS including proving state of residence, and they don't do the background check now.
Also, several criminology studies show that criminals rarely go to gun stores. They almost never go to gun shows.
If you know current federal gun control laws, you know that.
https://www.atf.gov/docs/163564-ilatfwebsite15pdf/download

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Should Ammunition Buyers Face Background Checks? California's Voters Will Decide [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 OP

Nope Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #1

Left to the voters to decide, there's a good chance this too, will pass. procon Nov 2016 #2

Oh, you mean like when they passed Prop 8? DonP Nov 2016 #3

No, I mean like the 6 new gun control Gov. Brown recently signed. procon Nov 2016 #8

Exactly like Prop 8, more unconstitutional laws to impact people you don't like. DonP Nov 2016 #9

My take on California discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #10

Cry me a river! procon Nov 2016 #11

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #12

You already have plenty of compromise. procon Nov 2016 #13

Except that the ATF said the gejohnston Nov 2016 #15

Seriously? Straw Purchasers buy... oh, never mind. Class is over. Go home. nt procon Nov 2016 #16

which is also a federal crime gejohnston Nov 2016 #17

Just a few thoughts for you discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #19

Nope! Hangingon Nov 2016 #5

Hopefully the people will crush this dumb idea. ileus Nov 2016 #14

There is no law so stupid that you can't find at least one person in favor discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #18

No. Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #21

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