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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: December 29, 1890 [View all]

jimmy the one

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16. Endlösung der Juden-frage
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:38 PM
Oct 2016

catbyte: You probably have passed around that dumbass meme that if the Polish Jews had been armed, then Hitler wouldn't have sent them to the ovens.

straw man: Read here about 1200 Jews who survived the Holocaust because armed men and women resisted. Is that a "dumbass meme"?

Well aware millions of european Jewish survived wwII; Lots more jewish survived the holocaust predominantly without guns, than with them. Your point is specious to the contention catbyte made.

At the time of liberation, the Bielski group had reached its peak of 1,230 people. More than 70 percent were women, elderly persons, and children, who otherwise would have perished under the German occupation.

european jewish before final solution.... 8,861,800
european jewish killed in final solution.. 5,933,900 - 67% killed
Ergo surviving jewish after final solution had begun, approx 3 million
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/killedtable.html

.. 1933, approximately 9.5 million Jews lived in Europe.. https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161

Approx 3 to 3.5 million european jews survived the holocaust, I believe most of them in russia, or some lesser in france & italy (an early safe haven for jews till rome surrendered, a rare commendable attribute to el duce benito).

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December 29, 1890 [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 OP
So what's your point? catbyte Oct 2016 #1
Umm, What are a few deaths in order to enforce prohibition? Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #2
What's the point of asking what's the point? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #3
Maybe it was about the immigration policy years before discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #4
Are you for forced confiscation like many on DU? Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #5
One big point is: Unarmed people do not fight back GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #6
Oh, Jesus H. Christ. As an Oibwe, I am DEEPLY offended by your conflating a shameful catbyte Oct 2016 #7
I'll take that as you are a supporter of gun control GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #8
I refuse to even dignify that outrage of a question with an answer. Shame on you. catbyte Oct 2016 #9
The holdouts at Bataan were overcome by the Japanese GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #11
greydee's false dichotomy jimmy the one Oct 2016 #15
The men on Bataan had military arms GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #22
Memes. Straw Man Oct 2016 #12
Endlösung der Juden-frage jimmy the one Oct 2016 #16
Specious? Straw Man Oct 2016 #20
Now I've heard it all discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #21
Because, ANY evidence that armed resistance can be effective even on the smallest, localized scale Marengo Oct 2016 #23
Why didn't I think of that discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #26
partisan warfare jimmy the one Oct 2016 #28
History. Straw Man Oct 2016 #29
The Churchill quote sums it up for me: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #30
who's the bigger racist? jimmy the one Nov 2016 #38
Therefore, you've concisely condensed your opinion/observation that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #39
too smug jimmy the one Nov 2016 #38
Not that I agree with your assertion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #39
you piqued my interest jimmy the one Oct 2016 #31
Well, that's good. Straw Man Oct 2016 #34
Divergence discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #35
Yes. Exactly. Straw Man Oct 2016 #36
You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #37
It's a "dumbass meme" if civilian disarmament is an ideoligical goal. Marengo Oct 2016 #24
If allowing Jews to possess arms posed no potential threat towards the Nazi regime, it's Jewish.. Marengo Oct 2016 #25
Beyond the living batshit crazy pale, is it not. pangaia Oct 2016 #27
friendly fire kills both sides: eyewitness phillip wells jimmy the one Oct 2016 #14
I'm sure your implication... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #17
sympathetic magic jimmy the one Oct 2016 #18
Then, thanks for agreeing with premise in the OP. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #19
Gun control isn't progressive. ileus Oct 2016 #32
A concise way with words is a gift... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #33
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