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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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2. K&R - Freedom will always emerge
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:02 AM
Oct 2016

A history of opinions on arms control and personal weapons:

>> "Civil Wars happen when the victimized are armed. Genocide happens when they are not." - A.E. Samaan

>> "Am I the only one who finds it unconscionable that an Air Force fighter can now shoot down a hijacked civilian airliner full of passengers, but the pilots of that airliner are not allowed to defend the aircraft from the hijacker, thus preventing the hijacking in the first place?" - American Airlines Capt. Tom Snelling

>> "If you’ve got to resist, you’re chances of being hurt are less the more lethal your weapon. If that were my wife, would I want her to have a .38 Special in her hand? Yeah." - Dr Arthur Kellerman

>> "If the price I must pay for my freedom is to acknowledge that the government was granted the power to infringe on them, then I am not free." - Pol Anderson

>> "These practices, amply documented in hearings before this Subcommittee, leave little doubt that the Bureau (of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) has disregarded rights guaranteed by the constitution and laws of the United States. It has trampled upon the second amendment by chilling exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by law-abiding citizens. It has offended the fourth amendment by unreasonably searching and seizing private property. It has ignored the Fifth Amendment by taking private property without just compensation and by entrapping honest citizens without regard for their right to due process of law." - Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the United States Senate (1982)

>> "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - The Dalai Lama

>> "The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose." - James Earl Jones

>> "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samuel Adams

>> "Without doubt one is allowed to resist against the unjust aggressor to one's life, one's goods or one's physical integrity; sometimes, even 'til the aggressor's death… In fact, this act is aimed at preserving one's life or one's goods and to make the aggressor powerless. Thus, it is a good act, which is the right of the victim." - Thomas Aquinas

>> "Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." - Augustine of Hippo

>> And he said to them, "When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?" They said, "Nothing." He said to them, "But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one..." - Luke 22:36

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More overreach struck down Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #1
Exactly. This is an overreach and thus judicial activism scscholar Oct 2016 #27
The US does not adhere to the principle of Parliamentary sovereignty... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #28
K&R - Freedom will always emerge discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #2
This should please Trump's NRA supporters who don't like paying taxes. (nt) stone space Oct 2016 #3
So, only the rich should have that choice? DonP Oct 2016 #4
Since he lives on taxpayer dollars Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #5
It's that whole; "Ends justify the means" rationale DonP Oct 2016 #6
What's wrong with being a public employee? stone space Oct 2016 #21
Not just hypocrisy -- hypocrisy of a most filthy nature. pablo_marmol Oct 2016 #7
Why do you think only Trump should be allowed to own guns? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #8
Why are you lying about me? stone space Oct 2016 #20
Do you support the $1,000 per gun tax? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #22
Changing the subject does not justify right wing lies. stone space Oct 2016 #25
The subject of the OP is the $1,000 tax. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #30
The subject is the right wing falsehood contained in post #8. That's the post I was replying to. stone space Oct 2016 #31
If you support the tax then you support a thing that only Trump and his ilk could afford. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #35
Straying off the path with an uncomfortable question... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #26
What state was this? davepc Oct 2016 #9
A US territory discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #10
The NFA tax was set at 400% of the price of a tommy gun mwrguy Oct 2016 #11
actually, it was 100 percent of a Thompson, gejohnston Oct 2016 #12
Clyde Barrow got his BARs from National Guard armories. His favorite weapon as I recall, with... Marengo Oct 2016 #13
I remember reading that Colt offered gejohnston Oct 2016 #14
It was John Ashley, leader of Florida's Ashley Gang: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #32
Good old Clyde wasn't near as unpleasant... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #15
That, along with living out of cars, Bonnie's injury, and the loss of Buck took a heavy toll. Marengo Oct 2016 #16
According to John Neal Phillips, Barrow's goal in life was not to gain fame or fortune from robbing discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #17
Ah...yes, Ed Crowder, I remember that now. Clyde certainly was determined never to return... Marengo Oct 2016 #18
OK, make it 100% then mwrguy Oct 2016 #23
Might work if they'd open the NFA registry n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #24
Why do you think only people as rich as Trump should be allowed to own guns? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #19
I think that we can all agree that NRA candidate Trump should be stripped his gun Rites for life stone space Oct 2016 #29
Trump's shitheelness is no excuse for continued attempts at threadjacking friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #33
Tell that to the poster I replied to. I didn't bring up Trump. stone space Oct 2016 #34
Clumsy attempts to dodge the question aside, why do you support a regressive tax on a civil right? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #36
For that matter, what does a Trump campaign ad have to do with the OP? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #37
Beyond really clumsy baiting, nothing? DonP Oct 2016 #39
That bit of NRA propaganda has been reposted twice, once in an OP. Cui bono? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #42
I wonder if they are on the NRA payroll? DonP Oct 2016 #43
For that one that always complains Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #44
Guns are not a civil right. Guns are an uncivil wrong. stone space Oct 2016 #38
SCOTUS and our President disagree with you DonP Oct 2016 #40
Thought-terminating cliches aside, the Supreme Court disagrees with you. And so does the President. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #41
Interesting, the supreme Court Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #45
So... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #46
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