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In reply to the discussion: which is the deadliest round? [View all]benEzra
(12,148 posts)35. Thank you. We agree on something. That's a start.
it makes no sense to ban assault weapons by definition
Thank you. We agree on something. That's a start.
let's ban the function that makes them so lethal.
They're not "so lethal". Rifles account for fewer deaths than any other type of weapon in the United States, even though detachable-magazine semiautos are the most common rifles in U.S. homes, and by far the most common rifles used in the shooting sports.
No semi auto weapons with interchangeable magazines, period.
Haha, now you sound like the Catholics who demand a ban on all hormonal contraceptives. Run the numbers. That'd be one of the fastest ways I can think of for your movement to slide completely into irrelevance.
Not many members of your personal echo chamber may own semiautos, but that doesn't mean semiautos as a group aren't the most popular rifles on the market. I don't have the numbers handy, but I'd expect that two thirds or more of the civilian rifle market is semiauto---not just all the modern-looking centerfires and .22's, but the old-fashioned ones like the Mini-14, the 10/22, and all those Remingtons and Savages and Marlins. Not. Going. To. Happen.
Mini-14's aren't even banned in California, Massachusetts, or New York City, for Pete's sake. Mini-14's, AR-15's, 10/22's, and all manner of other detachable-mag semiautos are legal in Canada and most of Europe, and you think you're going to outlaw them in the United States?
Stop pussy footin round with hand grips and bayonet lugs. Just ban the things that make them more lethal than wheel guns
They're not "more lethal than wheel guns (sic)"; revolvers kill ten times more Americans annually than all rifles combined, not just those with detachable magazines. All told, semiauto rifles of any type account for maybe a third as many annual deaths as bicycles do (722 people died riding bicycles in the most recent year I have stats for). Once again, you're forgetting that all rifles combined account for less than 350 deaths/yr out of 13,500 or so, and semiautos are only a subset of that.
By discarding the silly handgrip-aesthetic rules (which even you admit are ludicrous) and going after all detachable-mag semiautos, all you've done is expand the number of people you want to threaten with prison for rifle ownership, from the ~25-30 million who own modern-looking rifles to the, what, 50-60+ million who own any detachable-magazine semiauto rifle?
But that doesn't matter, because you hate rifles and the people who own them, so you don't give a fuck about inconvenient facts like the FBI data on weapon misuse.
As to handguns, how many of your fellow citizens own handguns now---70, 80 million? You're not going to ban them, period. So you might think about focusing on getting them out of the hands of the few thousand urban criminals that commit 80% of U.S. murders (ever heard of Project Ceasefire?), rather than trying to take them away from the lawful and nonviolent. But of course, your posts make clear that you despise vetted carry license holders far more than you despise the felons who actually commit most homicides.
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Because it looks scary and people think its an automatic weapon that the military uses. n/t
Waldorf
Sep 2016
#18
As for ignition systems, the firelock was a significant improvement over the matchlock,
Marengo
Sep 2016
#33
In that case please stop citing the second amendment and the bill of rights.
flamin lib
Sep 2016
#41
Okay. Natural law (or rights) stems from a philosophical tradition and is based on nothing
flamin lib
Sep 2016
#49
Should one decide unilaterally that it's a good idea to ban most or all semi-auto arms...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Sep 2016
#51
"Okay. Natural law (or rights) stems from a philosophical tradition and is based on nothing"
beergood
Oct 2016
#56
Yep. Just like slavery and the way we have treated (and still do) Native Americans.
flamin lib
Oct 2016
#58
"I know beer is good but you should clear your head and see the world as it is, not how you want it"
beergood
Oct 2016
#60
"Well recognized gungeon tactic: can't have a conversation with just one gunner" Nah, not true.
DonP
Sep 2016
#40
That you consider rifle ownership to be comparable to human trafficking and child porn...
benEzra
Sep 2016
#44
I'm sure you would. And undoubtedly revolvers, and "riot guns", and "sniper rifles"...
benEzra
Oct 2016
#63
Gun control advocacy attracts bullshit artists, like all prohibitionism. DU is not exempt
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2016
#65