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Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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8. I must demur here, as your last line was not quite what you said originally.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:02 PM

Jul 2016

So it is a fallacy to declaratively state that guns provide personal protection.

is different from

"I bought the gun for self-protection"

is, in fact, no different from saying that "I bought a car to get to school/work" or

"I bought a Chromebook to go online/write reports with"

Neither of these imply a guarantee that you won't drive into a bridge abutment or
get your identity stolen via malware or phishing email.

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"NRA talking point(s)" is a thought-terminating cliché: [View all] friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 OP

So when the term "controllers" is used by some here when referring guillaumeb Jul 2016 #1

No, because it accurately describes their goal(s), whereas "NRA talking point(s)" is used... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #2

So if I use the term NRA-type talking points would that avoid the dreaded label? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #3

No, because it would still be an attempt to circumvent critical thought, either in the mind... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #4

"NRA talking point(s)" is also a genetic fallacy, as it attacks the purported source... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #5

A fallacy in your response: guillaumeb Jul 2016 #6

I must demur here, as your last line was not quite what you said originally. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #8

Oh, I agree there is no guarantee. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #11

Another example: Follow the money trail.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #7

'Thought-terminating cliché' is concise, pithy, and a great response to those who use them friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #9

I kind of like the ring of TTC. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #10

I've always said ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #12