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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: I'm afraid. [View all]

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
36. There's some truth
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

to the fact that America is a special case, insofar as it's unable to safely own guns... I don't disagree, but... but... that's not an argument for Americans continuing to have endless access to guns...

Imagine if your son wrecks your cars 2-3 times in a few months... your neighbour's son never does... does your neighbour's son's ability to drive safely mean that you should let your son continue to have your car?

Put it a different way, if America didn't have 30K people die at the end of a gun every year, with 10s of thousands more injured, no one would be calling for more gun control... people want gun control BECAUSE Americans as a whole can't handle guns safely... at all.

And yeah, that might mean that safe gun owners have to suffer a bit, to save a lot of innocent lives, but so what? Gun owners certainly aren't doing anything to lower the gun death rate... they've had decades to sort it out without government intervention and yet... 10s of thousands of deaths a year... in the last 15 years alone more Americans have died at the end of a gun than died in military action in ww2.

And yet, when even simple gun safety legislation is proposed gun owners flip out and act like their entire self worth as an American is being challenged...

It's absurd..

But hey listen, lets be clear... no one is going to do anything about it... America will still lose thousands of kids to guns a year... don't worry... your freedom as a gun owner to wipe out a few dozen civilians will not be impinged.

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I'm afraid. [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 OP
I'm always tickled by those who say gun owners live in fear Press Virginia May 2016 #1
My personal opinion discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #2
well my first line of defense is the dogs Press Virginia May 2016 #3
That's a good first option, I believe in the USMC rules for gun fighting... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #7
Lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #4
there is no evidence to support the claim gejohnston May 2016 #5
lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #9
So in order for a action to qualify as... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #11
I'm not EdwardBernays May 2016 #13
Well... okay then discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #16
you proved my point gejohnston May 2016 #14
re: "They offer an illusion of safety..." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #6
Cops carry EdwardBernays May 2016 #8
Are you saying that... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #10
I'm saying EdwardBernays May 2016 #12
cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #15
Not even vaguely true EdwardBernays May 2016 #22
I do, I also know what I'm reading. gejohnston May 2016 #23
Gun violence. Straw Man May 2016 #25
well EdwardBernays May 2016 #27
we don't have tens of thousands of accidents, gejohnston May 2016 #28
ummm EdwardBernays May 2016 #32
That is pretty low for our population gejohnston May 2016 #35
There's some truth EdwardBernays May 2016 #36
more complete nonsense gejohnston May 2016 #37
Lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #39
your numbers are still wrong gejohnston May 2016 #41
Relevance? Straw Man May 2016 #30
Yes? Straw Man May 2016 #24
Sorry EdwardBernays May 2016 #26
You should be. Straw Man May 2016 #29
here EdwardBernays May 2016 #31
wrong gejohnston May 2016 #33
... and there. Straw Man May 2016 #34
Really EdwardBernays May 2016 #38
Red herrings and false premises. Straw Man May 2016 #40
I wonder... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #17
re: "would never call a non-gunner 'weak' or 'unprepared' or anything insulting." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18
The Nuge.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #19
Well, the Nuge kind of 'ran out the door without paying' discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #20
This is a tricky place. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #21
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