Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

33. wrong

Tue May 3, 2016, 12:07 PM

May 2016

but hey guess what lots of european countries have those as well...

not to the level of our worst cities. I seriously doubt they have third world level break downs, half of the high school graduates being functionally illiterate, and the level of corruption like ours and South and Central America.

and yet, they have lower murder rates and almost no gun violence... I know you'll find any way possible to say gun violence has noting to do with guns, but it's nonsense.

Many of those European countries have more liberal laws and higher gun ownership than, say, New Jersey and Maryland, why not? BTW, the murder rates were even lower when there were no gun control at all in those countries.

In Germany VERY FEW police you'd see on the streets are armed. It's becoming MORE common, but it's not a thing you'd expect or that most Germans I've talked to like...

Really? All of the ones I've seen in Frankfurt Airport were carrying pistols and sub-machine guns. The only country I have been where cops didn't normally carry guns was South Korea.

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I'm afraid. [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 OP

I'm always tickled by those who say gun owners live in fear Press Virginia May 2016 #1

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well my first line of defense is the dogs Press Virginia May 2016 #3

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cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #15

Not even vaguely true EdwardBernays May 2016 #22

I do, I also know what I'm reading. gejohnston May 2016 #23

Gun violence. Straw Man May 2016 #25

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we don't have tens of thousands of accidents, gejohnston May 2016 #28

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That is pretty low for our population gejohnston May 2016 #35

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your numbers are still wrong gejohnston May 2016 #41

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Red herrings and false premises. Straw Man May 2016 #40

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re: "would never call a non-gunner 'weak' or 'unprepared' or anything insulting." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18

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