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jimmy the one

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31. feel good unorganized militia, mostly untrained armed rabble
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:36 AM
Apr 2016

sergeant: . I take it......you are not retired military.

Correct technically, I wasn't a lifer, but in a sense retired since I'll never re-up again; ~3 yrs active & 12 in reserves, got the token meritorious service award after 12 I think it was (navy). Also marksman badge fwiw.

sergeant: Former members of the armed forces are also considered part of the "unorganized militia" per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.

So? I noted most of the Unorg militia who showed up during wwII were wwI vets (tho that provision may not even've been in effect then).
But more proof the UNorg'd militia as an organization is a joke. Explain how after 6 yrs military service one is exempt from further obligatory service, yet still obligated to do 'UNORGANIZED' militia duty (whatever that is). I wouldn't show up for Unorg'd miiitia & there's not a whit they could do, and my veteran status & 4 honorables could not be revoked nor downgraded.
Former military members evidently are considered part of this cosmetic glitter called the (feel good) unorganized militia, but any vet worth his salt would be cautious of affiliating with a lot of unorganized armed rabble.

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


(a) To be eligible for original enlistment in the National Guard, a person must be at least 17 years of age and under 45, or under 64 years of age and a former member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps. To be eligible for reenlistment, a person must be under 64 years of age.

sergeant: When I stood at my classroom window in Brooklyn, watching the twin towers fall, many of my colleagues were in tears. Besides myself, only one other teacher in the building was prior service. As I was standing by the window, he walked over to me, and put his hand on my shoulder. "I feel bad for them, I really do" He said, nodding his head toward a cluster of teachers also standing by a window. "Why is that?" I replied. "They don't have a Marine Corps that will take them back in a heartbeat." He said. For me it was another 10 years in the Guard. The Marine was deployed three times.
I don't see the joke in any of that


Haven't the foggiest idea what you're driving at, it's not all about you. And you were not deployed under the auspices of the Unorganized militia, but either the NG or the corps. Affiliation with the unorg'd militia had nowt to do with anything. Thousands of unorg'd militia are denied admission to the regular US military every year.
Hundreds of thousands of violent & property crimes and gun murder are committed in the USA every single year, done probably mostly by members of the 'unorganized militia', and you're trying to evoke sympathy from 9/11 due some teachers somehow losing their jobs? or did they all lose a relative or friend etc?

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2A: Group or individual right? [View all] tortoise1956 Apr 2016 OP
How interesting. SheilaT Apr 2016 #1
It seems a foregone conclusion that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #2
My education in political theory pretty much held that the B.O.R.'s rights... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #13
I reject the notions of collective and/or individual so-called "rights" to guns. stone space Apr 2016 #3
But can you support such an assertion... theatre goon Apr 2016 #4
At my age, I offer mostly moral support for those actively struggling against the tools of violence. stone space Apr 2016 #6
So, the answer is no. theatre goon Apr 2016 #8
At my age... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #17
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Au Contraire! DonP Apr 2016 #19
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I'm amused by the near complete lack of support that one receives Lurks Often Apr 2016 #21
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re: "Guns are not a "right"." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #11
I used the expression "negative" in regard government's restrictions and implied duties. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #14
Always has been an individual, always should be. ileus Apr 2016 #5
Three important points... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #12
It became murky when the representatives recreated the Miltias into the National Guard. jmg257 Apr 2016 #15
The Militia and the National Guard are not one and the same... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #16
UNorganized Militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Apr 2016 #25
I take it... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #28
feel good unorganized militia, mostly untrained armed rabble jimmy the one Apr 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #36
All of which is entirely irrelevant to the simple fact that it exists. Marengo Apr 2016 #30
Linguistically, clearly individual. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #22
Let's say for a moment... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #24
What good are rights not granted to the individual??? ileus Apr 2016 #23
Well - rights SECURED for the individual...I fixed it! :) nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #27
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such misconstruction of what's right before your eyes jimmy the one Apr 2016 #32
Let's take these one at a time tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #37
raccoons are scavengers discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #38
re: "Group or individual right?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #33
Very obviously individual, of course. N/T beevul Apr 2016 #34
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