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In reply to the discussion: 2A: Group or individual right? [View all]jimmy the one
(2,720 posts)25. UNorganized Militia is a JOKE
2. ORGANIZED MILITIA
a. The National Guard - when operating under the Governor of the respective state
b. The State Guards (for states that do have them) AKA State Military Reserves
3. UNORGANIZED MILITIA
a. The body of men (and women) of a certain age who could be called upon to assist the above, or even fight on their own.
CoFirstSgt above paraphrases the US militia code.
The UNorganized militia is a JOKE. An unorganized mob is no more an army than loose bricks & mortar a house {famous roman saying}.
The UNorganized militia does not pass the 2nd amendment litmus test, which clearly calls for a 'well regulated militia'. By definition of unorganized, the UNorganized militia is NOT well regulated. It is a citizens miltia, but it is not well regulated. The national guard is not what the founding fathers wanted either, since it is not a citizens militia, just a select militia, which the founding fathers feared.
The unorganized militia does not meet regularly, has no officers, no pay, no retirement plan, for cripes sake does not even have a mobilization point.
Most all americans pass thru the 'unorg'd militia' phase without even realizing they were in it.
The unorganized militia has not been activated since wwII on the west coast due japanese invasion hysteria, and only about 5,000 showed up, about half or more were wwI vets. They patrolled the oregon coast centered at Ft Stevens, and the one time they spotted an IJN sub they withheld cannon fire, since the {naive worried} UNorganized commander thought by firing at the japanese submarine he would give away his position, and allow the invasion which the sub was leading, to succeed!
THE UNORGANIZED MILITIA IS A JOKE.
The UNorg'd militia has not been activated in any armed sense since then. Governors & the President agree that to mobilize the unorg'd militia would cause more problems than they could possibly cure. Thousands of armed americans together in a large locale, wow, what a disaster waiting to happen, eh?
I suppose if alien monsters invade from outer space, the UNorg'd militia might as well be mobilized, but until that, let's just let the UNorg'd militia think they are really helping out to defend the country (wink wink).
a. The National Guard - when operating under the Governor of the respective state
b. The State Guards (for states that do have them) AKA State Military Reserves
3. UNORGANIZED MILITIA
a. The body of men (and women) of a certain age who could be called upon to assist the above, or even fight on their own.
CoFirstSgt above paraphrases the US militia code.
The UNorganized militia is a JOKE. An unorganized mob is no more an army than loose bricks & mortar a house {famous roman saying}.
The UNorganized militia does not pass the 2nd amendment litmus test, which clearly calls for a 'well regulated militia'. By definition of unorganized, the UNorganized militia is NOT well regulated. It is a citizens miltia, but it is not well regulated. The national guard is not what the founding fathers wanted either, since it is not a citizens militia, just a select militia, which the founding fathers feared.
The unorganized militia does not meet regularly, has no officers, no pay, no retirement plan, for cripes sake does not even have a mobilization point.
Most all americans pass thru the 'unorg'd militia' phase without even realizing they were in it.
The unorganized militia has not been activated since wwII on the west coast due japanese invasion hysteria, and only about 5,000 showed up, about half or more were wwI vets. They patrolled the oregon coast centered at Ft Stevens, and the one time they spotted an IJN sub they withheld cannon fire, since the {naive worried} UNorganized commander thought by firing at the japanese submarine he would give away his position, and allow the invasion which the sub was leading, to succeed!
THE UNORGANIZED MILITIA IS A JOKE.
The UNorg'd militia has not been activated in any armed sense since then. Governors & the President agree that to mobilize the unorg'd militia would cause more problems than they could possibly cure. Thousands of armed americans together in a large locale, wow, what a disaster waiting to happen, eh?
I suppose if alien monsters invade from outer space, the UNorg'd militia might as well be mobilized, but until that, let's just let the UNorg'd militia think they are really helping out to defend the country (wink wink).
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