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jimmy the one

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25. UNorganized Militia is a JOKE
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016
2. ORGANIZED MILITIA
a. The National Guard - when operating under the Governor of the respective state
b. The State Guards (for states that do have them) AKA State Military Reserves

3. UNORGANIZED MILITIA
a. The body of men (and women) of a certain age who could be called upon to assist the above, or even fight on their own.


CoFirstSgt above paraphrases the US militia code.
The UNorganized militia is a JOKE. An unorganized mob is no more an army than loose bricks & mortar a house {famous roman saying}.
The UNorganized militia does not pass the 2nd amendment litmus test, which clearly calls for a 'well regulated militia'. By definition of unorganized, the UNorganized militia is NOT well regulated. It is a citizens miltia, but it is not well regulated. The national guard is not what the founding fathers wanted either, since it is not a citizens militia, just a select militia, which the founding fathers feared.
The unorganized militia does not meet regularly, has no officers, no pay, no retirement plan, for cripes sake does not even have a mobilization point.
Most all americans pass thru the 'unorg'd militia' phase without even realizing they were in it.

The unorganized militia has not been activated since wwII on the west coast due japanese invasion hysteria, and only about 5,000 showed up, about half or more were wwI vets. They patrolled the oregon coast centered at Ft Stevens, and the one time they spotted an IJN sub they withheld cannon fire, since the {naive worried} UNorganized commander thought by firing at the japanese submarine he would give away his position, and allow the invasion which the sub was leading, to succeed!
THE UNORGANIZED MILITIA IS A JOKE.

The UNorg'd militia has not been activated in any armed sense since then. Governors & the President agree that to mobilize the unorg'd militia would cause more problems than they could possibly cure. Thousands of armed americans together in a large locale, wow, what a disaster waiting to happen, eh?
I suppose if alien monsters invade from outer space, the UNorg'd militia might as well be mobilized, but until that, let's just let the UNorg'd militia think they are really helping out to defend the country (wink wink).

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2A: Group or individual right? [View all] tortoise1956 Apr 2016 OP
How interesting. SheilaT Apr 2016 #1
It seems a foregone conclusion that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #2
My education in political theory pretty much held that the B.O.R.'s rights... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #13
I reject the notions of collective and/or individual so-called "rights" to guns. stone space Apr 2016 #3
But can you support such an assertion... theatre goon Apr 2016 #4
At my age, I offer mostly moral support for those actively struggling against the tools of violence. stone space Apr 2016 #6
So, the answer is no. theatre goon Apr 2016 #8
At my age... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #17
In other words, you do nothing of substance to advance your cause of gun control Lurks Often Apr 2016 #18
Au Contraire! DonP Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #20
I'm amused by the near complete lack of support that one receives Lurks Often Apr 2016 #21
So, you you believe... Puha Ekapi Apr 2016 #7
What part of "I reject the notion" did you not understand? stone space Apr 2016 #9
Ok, I just wanted to see... Puha Ekapi Apr 2016 #10
Perhaps the confusion originates in the fact that you are unable to answer questions... Marengo Apr 2016 #29
re: "Guns are not a "right"." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #11
I used the expression "negative" in regard government's restrictions and implied duties. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #14
Always has been an individual, always should be. ileus Apr 2016 #5
Three important points... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #12
It became murky when the representatives recreated the Miltias into the National Guard. jmg257 Apr 2016 #15
The Militia and the National Guard are not one and the same... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #16
UNorganized Militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Apr 2016 #25
I take it... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #28
feel good unorganized militia, mostly untrained armed rabble jimmy the one Apr 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #36
All of which is entirely irrelevant to the simple fact that it exists. Marengo Apr 2016 #30
Linguistically, clearly individual. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #22
Let's say for a moment... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #24
What good are rights not granted to the individual??? ileus Apr 2016 #23
Well - rights SECURED for the individual...I fixed it! :) nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #26
such misconstruction of what's right before your eyes jimmy the one Apr 2016 #32
Let's take these one at a time tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #37
raccoons are scavengers discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #38
re: "Group or individual right?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #33
Very obviously individual, of course. N/T beevul Apr 2016 #34
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