Gun Control & RKBA

flamin lib

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162. Stand there as long as ya' want Duckhunter935.

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:14 PM

Feb 2016

The point is EXACTLY that I don't KNOW why a person might decide to carry.

If we are so fucking safe why are gun deaths, suicide and homicide, as much a 25 times higher than other countries? Our closest competitor by demographics is 10 times safer from guns than we are. A woman is killed by a domestic partner every 16 hours but I'm supposed to ASSUME that someone carrying is in good mental state and not bent on harm? What kind of fucking rational is that?

As I see it people carry for one of three reasons:
They are too terrified of life to be without a gun.
They want to intimidate everyone around them.
They are up to no good.

Any one of those is reason enough to leave the area IMMEDIATELY AND WITH ALL DUE HASTE.

If the restaurant wants my business it will not let a tiny minority of fetishists intimidate the vast majority of its customers. l DO NOT have to remain in a place of business where I am not comfortable.

Open carry and concealed carry gun worshipers just need to take responsibility for their actions.

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Texas Woman Sentenced to Life for Murders of Husband and Step-Daughter [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP

So the firearm made her do it? GGJohn Feb 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #2

"Mama didn't raise no victim!" stone space Feb 2016 #3

And those pictures mean what? GGJohn Feb 2016 #4

If I saw her and her Open Carry buddies in a restaurant, I'd leave immediately. stone space Feb 2016 #5

~~~ discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #6

Leave without paying your bill and you'll be the one arrested. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #7

Threats seem to be all the NRA has. stone space Feb 2016 #8

Really? When did the NRA say that? GGJohn Feb 2016 #9

I've been arrested many, many times, before. stone space Feb 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Feb 2016 #11

Threatened you? GGJohn Feb 2016 #12

Yes, you threatened me with arrest right here: stone space Feb 2016 #14

I threatened you with arrest? GGJohn Feb 2016 #15

It's not just a threat, it's an empty threat. stone space Feb 2016 #16

This is too fucking funny. GGJohn Feb 2016 #17

Do you have an example or not? stone space Feb 2016 #18

LOL, nice rant, GGJohn Feb 2016 #19

Your threats of arrest are empty. (nt) stone space Feb 2016 #20

LOL, pure comedy gold. GGJohn Feb 2016 #22

Perhaps you think double murders are funny? stone space Feb 2016 #23

Perhaps you should take a course on reading comprehension. GGJohn Feb 2016 #24

Let us know when *you're* willing to take the onus for Barbara Graham AKA Barbara Lipscomb, mmkay? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #26

I'm not sure what your point is. stone space Feb 2016 #27

If *we* are supposed to wear Dunnachie, you should likewise wear Graham/Lipscomb friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #35

How is running for our lives asking you to wear anything? stone space Feb 2016 #37

Why would you be running for your lives? GGJohn Feb 2016 #39

This is why we would run for our lives. stone space Feb 2016 #40

Why? What are they doing that would cause you to run? GGJohn Feb 2016 #42

Dunnachie represents us in the same way that Barbara Graham/Lipscomb represents you friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #43

I don't think you read what I said. stone space Feb 2016 #44

Running for your life from what threat? GGJohn Feb 2016 #45

But Dunnachie didn't commit those murders in public, did she? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #47

"It's not a clip, it's a magazine!" stone space Feb 2016 #53

You should probably put down your mouse and back away slowly tularetom Feb 2016 #54

If they don't pay for the meal, they likely would be Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #77

If I see this, I'm running for my life! stone space Feb 2016 #79

What emergency do you see? GGJohn Feb 2016 #80

I am NOT a thief. Please stop calling me that. (nt) stone space Feb 2016 #83

Apparently you have a reading comprehension. GGJohn Feb 2016 #85

I'm not going to spend my day worrying about hypothetical scenarios. Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #84

It wasn't hypothetical to the legitimate unarmed customers of that resturaunt. stone space Feb 2016 #87

Really? That "group" murdered 2 people? GGJohn Feb 2016 #89

"It's not a clip, it's a magazine!" stone space Feb 2016 #91

You said, and I quote, GGJohn Feb 2016 #92

Agreed Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #95

well he is happy getting his public paycheck Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #104

Is there a problem with me being employed? stone space Feb 2016 #109

not at all, I also feel the server and Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #110

We are talking about a life and death situation, and you're channeling Adam Smith? stone space Feb 2016 #114

What life and death situation? GGJohn Feb 2016 #116

This life and death situation. stone space Feb 2016 #118

how many were killed by them in that restaurant? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #121

Where do you see a life and death situation? GGJohn Feb 2016 #122

one of his several Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #126

I do not know? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #119

Do you want us to work for free? stone space Feb 2016 #123

do you want the server to work for free? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #127

What blatant attack on public employees? GGJohn Feb 2016 #130

well, I have over 30 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #133

Absoulutely it is, GGJohn Feb 2016 #135

beats me, I just know everything is Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #139

what life and death? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #117

This life and death situation. stone space Feb 2016 #120

your paycheck came into it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #124

My paycheck is a personal matter, and not your concern. stone space Feb 2016 #128

so is the server's, right Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #129

When you bash your fellow DUers for getting a paycheck, ... stone space Feb 2016 #132

But yet you would deny a business owner or server money by running out on a food bill? GGJohn Feb 2016 #134

I am not bashing you for getting a paycheck Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #136

You have no reason to even bring my paycheck into the discussion. stone space Feb 2016 #138

you did when you brought the servers paycheck into the discussion Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #140

You have no reason to even bring my personal paycheck into the discussion. stone space Feb 2016 #141

but it ok to withhold the helps paycheck Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #142

Too, too funny. GGJohn Feb 2016 #131

Wow, that's a fine pretzel you made of the words he said. GGJohn Feb 2016 #125

Three days, max Puha Ekapi Feb 2016 #96

Betting pool? GGJohn Feb 2016 #97

Seems more intense each reappearance. Hangingon Feb 2016 #144

5 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #112

That poster has no "rheostat" DonP Feb 2016 #137

Is GGJohn a law enforcement office with the authority to arrest? Marengo Feb 2016 #78

Nope, GGJohn Feb 2016 #81

Of course not. Nobody in that capacity would make such threats. stone space Feb 2016 #82

OMG. LOL, GGJohn Feb 2016 #86

What "emergency"? Marengo Feb 2016 #93

a fact is not a threat Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #102

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #13

I think his smokey old Evinrude died in a tank pond. No bites today. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #21

So, you've been arrested many, many times? branford Feb 2016 #25

Good Lord! This is a Democratic website. stone space Feb 2016 #28

You stated you would leave a restaurant without paying branford Feb 2016 #32

So what? Do you have a problem with nonviolence? stone space Feb 2016 #33

Jeez Lois, this is just too funny. GGJohn Feb 2016 #34

No, you should be ashamed branford Feb 2016 #36

I am NOT ashamed. stone space Feb 2016 #38

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #41

Skipping out on a restaurant bill isnt "non violence", it's petty theft DonP Feb 2016 #58

I'm not a petty criminal. stone space Feb 2016 #64

If you skip out without paying for your food, you most certainly are, GGJohn Feb 2016 #66

Are you acusing me of being a thief? (nt) stone space Feb 2016 #68

Thief, not theif. GGJohn Feb 2016 #69

Are you acusing me of being a thief? Yes or no? stone space Feb 2016 #70

You said you would leave an eating establishment without paying, GGJohn Feb 2016 #71

you all but called me a racist Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #106

I'm not going to revise a statement that I didn't make. stone space Feb 2016 #107

so am I a racist Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #108

Why are you doing this? stone space Feb 2016 #111

LOL, this is pure comedy gold, GGJohn Feb 2016 #115

Jeez dude, GGJohn Feb 2016 #113

I would prefer that you left at least enough of a tip to gejohnston Feb 2016 #75

What does this have to do with my post? stone space Feb 2016 #76

false equivalence gejohnston Feb 2016 #88

You need to check your wheel bearings... Puha Ekapi Feb 2016 #94

I don't claim to be a track star, and I won't win any marathons, but... stone space Feb 2016 #98

Again, what emergency do you see in that picture? GGJohn Feb 2016 #103

Our interlocutor has so far produced zero accounts of shootings in restaurants *or* classrooms... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #143

I would have thought he Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #145

Maybe he found the Luby's Cafeteria shooting story? DonP Feb 2016 #146

I doubt she would either Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #147

so you would commit theft Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #101

It is not theft if you believe your life is in danger and you flee to safety. flamin lib Feb 2016 #148

how would your life be in danger Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #150

It is reasonable because I THINK it is just a stand your ground is justified if you THINK flamin lib Feb 2016 #152

good luck with that Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #153

l believe that anyone suffering from Agoraphobia so severe that they cannot leave home flamin lib Feb 2016 #156

What you believe is irrelevant to what the law actually says. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #157

yep, the paranoia is strong Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #158

Uh, Duckhunter935, being afraid to leave home without a gun seems a lot more flamin lib Feb 2016 #159

wow, now a mind reader, you are good Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #160

Stand there as long as ya' want Duckhunter935. flamin lib Feb 2016 #162

so you still advocate theft Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #163

Sigh, Duckhunter935, it is not theft if I am leaving a situation in the most expedient manner flamin lib Feb 2016 #166

false comparison gejohnston Feb 2016 #167

It is not a false comparison and no, I wouldn't go in that Apple store. flamin lib Feb 2016 #169

yes it is, you just refuse to see it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #171

I see you are still trying to conflate Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #168

You are beginning to bore me. flamin lib Feb 2016 #170

to bad, I am glad I have zero on ignore Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #172

Wiki is not the best source gejohnston Feb 2016 #173

The arguement being made here in this thread is that... stone space Feb 2016 #174

that's bullshit and you know it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #175

No, I am most certainly NOT a thief. STOP CALLING ME A THIEF, GOD DAMN IT! stone space Feb 2016 #177

you will indeed be if you follow though on what you advocate Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #178

Again, I AM NOT A THIEF, GOD DAMN IT! stone space Feb 2016 #179

so what is a person that fails to pay a bill Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #181

A person running for his or her life is not a thief. stone space Feb 2016 #182

running from a holstered firearm? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #185

It will be considered theft unless YOU can prove that a reasonable person Lurks Often Feb 2016 #188

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. GGJohn Feb 2016 #191

yes he does Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #192

Don't forget about he's also been "arrested many, many times before!" nt branford Feb 2016 #195

true Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #196

All is good. I've just been busy with work. branford Feb 2016 #198

Are you feeling ok? Puha Ekapi Feb 2016 #197

Millions of people, perhaps tens of millions of people, carry every day. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #201

Especially when they could all "snap" at any minute DonP Feb 2016 #202

Uh, no, it's not, but good luck with that defense if you ever try to use it GGJohn Feb 2016 #155

It has to be objectively reasonable gejohnston Feb 2016 #164

So someone carrying a holstered firearm sitting down to enjoy a meal is considered a threat GGJohn Feb 2016 #151

yep, and fuck the server and business owner Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #154

Please stop threatening people with arrest. stone space Feb 2016 #180

he is not threatening you at all Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #183

There would be no arrest. That's just an empty threat. (nt) stone space Feb 2016 #184

for you think the waitress should be paid like you? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #186

To hell with the minimum wage waitstaff, he's a "professor" and knows better. DonP Feb 2016 #187

notice how he never answered my question Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #193

Stop lying about what people post Lurks Often Feb 2016 #189

Oh, it's you again lying about what I actually meant. GGJohn Feb 2016 #190

he stopped posting Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #194

Not yet, but it'll happen soon enough Lurks Often Feb 2016 #199

I particularly like the sharing of all the family photo albums DonP Feb 2016 #200

So if she had liability insurance on her gun... krispos42 Feb 2016 #29

If all her guns had been confiscated when she first started licking them in public, ... stone space Feb 2016 #30

Hey, why don't you post that picture again? GGJohn Feb 2016 #31

Your side is beginning to latch onto liability insurance... krispos42 Feb 2016 #49

If it were up to me, I'd... stone space Feb 2016 #50

Take away the guns? GGJohn Feb 2016 #51

All you guys have is threats, threats, and more threats. stone space Feb 2016 #52

Why do you wish for all that chaos and death? GGJohn Feb 2016 #55

More terroristic threats? WTF??? stone space Feb 2016 #56

You're the one making the threats. GGJohn Feb 2016 #59

Your threats of Domestic Terrorism don't impress me. stone space Feb 2016 #60

Why do you want to take away the firearms of law abiding Americans? GGJohn Feb 2016 #61

Why do you keep threatening war? stone space Feb 2016 #62

Why do you want to take away the firearms of law abiding Americans? GGJohn Feb 2016 #63

I will say... Puha Ekapi Feb 2016 #99

How do you expect folks to respond when somebody waves... stone space Feb 2016 #100

You're the one that wants to deny law abiding Americans of a Constitutional right, GGJohn Feb 2016 #105

Yeah, I get that impression. But tell me how liability insurance on guns... krispos42 Feb 2016 #65

Me, neither. stone space Feb 2016 #67

No you wouldn't. beevul Feb 2016 #72

The funerals would have paid for instead of burdening the family of the deceased. flamin lib Feb 2016 #149

But the murders were a crime that she committed, right? krispos42 Feb 2016 #161

If she is in control of her facilities, ie not insane, she is liable for her actions. flamin lib Feb 2016 #165

Thank you krispos42 Feb 2016 #176

X-Posted to LBN stone space Feb 2016 #46

...where it is against the LBN Terms of Service friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #48

Another... deathrind Feb 2016 #57

Lots of focus on the firearm... beevul Feb 2016 #73

And in the following case an innocent knife was forced to kill 3 people... Marengo Feb 2016 #90

I trust my wife with her 642. ileus Feb 2016 #74