Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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18. No, I ignore your cites because you ignored mine.

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:52 PM

Feb 2016

That is your right, but ignoring inconvenient studies does not refute the studies.

Put your money where your mouth is:

1. The hypothesis of "more guns = more deaths" is demonstrably false over the past 28 years of documented American history. The number of firearms in civilian circulation have been steadily increasing over that time period, and the number of firearm-related fatalities has not been equivalently increasing. However, again, since there seems to be some confusion on the concept, proving "more guns = more deaths" to be false does not prove "more guns = fewer deaths" to be true. Doing so would require accounting for far more variables than I did, and involve far more interesting math than I employed, and require controlling for far more variables than I care to.
http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/09/graphics-matter-year-the-third.html

When I see you behave the way you seem to demand others behave, and address MY cite which was posted first, I'll address your cites. Don't come here demanding that others play by the rules when you can't be bothered to follow them yourself. QQing about it just makes you a hypocrite.

...the fact that Heller v. District of Columbia is an example of legislation by Court and judicial overreach.

That's not a fact. Its an unsupported assertion, an opinion, asserted by you without any evidence or substantiation of any kind.

If you want to debate Heller, start a new thread right here and right now, I'm game. No, I don't think you want to debate that at all. I think you just want to cast aspersions and assert without evidence your opinion, and label it as fact. The 90s are calling, they want their old dusty worn out tactics back.

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January Gun Sales Set Yet Another Record [View all] beevul Feb 2016 OP

Fear can cause any herd to stampede. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #1

Yes, it causes all sorts of idiocy, like the desire to ban rifles... beevul Feb 2016 #2

While we obviously disagree, guillaumeb Feb 2016 #4

Disagree all you like... beevul Feb 2016 #5

"While we obviously disagree........." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #11

But determining what the facts are is not easy. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #14

Changing the subject, and/or moving the goalposts... beevul Feb 2016 #15

You ignore my cites because the facts given do not support what you are determined guillaumeb Feb 2016 #16

No, I ignore your cites because you ignored mine. beevul Feb 2016 #18

The Heller decision has been debated here ad nauseum. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #20

Thats a fancy way of saying that you can not support your position or your assertions. beevul Feb 2016 #23

"But determining what the facts are is not easy." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #19

inverse correlation between escalating gun purchases and the decline of gun violence since '93 guillaumeb Feb 2016 #21

Never claimed that more guns are *needed* - so no need to defend that "logic". pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #22

facts: yes/no/maybe some discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #25

Imagine if you will the illusion that bans equal safety... ileus Feb 2016 #10

"More guns mean more unnatural death." Thundering error. The data points the other way. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #12

For shame! discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #13

An interesting way of saying "I don't have facts to back me up, but...." guillaumeb Feb 2016 #17

Here are those facts you were asking for. beevul Feb 2016 #24

DEAR GOD! Won't somebody stop that guy? DonP Feb 2016 #3

I saw him the other day Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6

No bathroom breaks? branford Feb 2016 #7

lots of red bull too Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #8

For the first time in many years I only have one or two guns on my list. ileus Feb 2016 #9