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In reply to the discussion: Let's seriously discuss smart guns [View all]
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)28. The title of the OP is " Let's seriously discuss smart guns"
The fact that you now want to move the goal posts with techno-bable about biometrics is a red herring. Like I said, when you get serious let me know.
So you say even that isn't reliable enough, huh?
No standards body, like Underwriters Lab, certifies the reliability of civilian guns. California and Massachusetts do require that a firearm, to be sold there, pass a shooting test. But they ask only that it fire 600 rounds with no more than six failures.
Mauch says the de facto industry norm for civilian handguns is around 5,000 rounds with no more than 50 failures. But at H&K and Armatix, he claims, he has hewed to a higher standard: no more than 10 failures in 10,000 firings. “We tested the iP1 with more than a quarter million rounds,” he says. “You can use it in rain, dust, and mud.”
The iP1 takes two AAA batteries, which will power about 5,000 firings, according to Armatix. An indicator light begins flashing when the batteries still have one-third of their life remaining — i.e., more than 1,000 shots. The watch takes a common button battery, and a watch-face icon monitors its depletion. If the battery is allowed to run out, the gun will not operate.
Mauch says the de facto industry norm for civilian handguns is around 5,000 rounds with no more than 50 failures. But at H&K and Armatix, he claims, he has hewed to a higher standard: no more than 10 failures in 10,000 firings. “We tested the iP1 with more than a quarter million rounds,” he says. “You can use it in rain, dust, and mud.”
The iP1 takes two AAA batteries, which will power about 5,000 firings, according to Armatix. An indicator light begins flashing when the batteries still have one-third of their life remaining — i.e., more than 1,000 shots. The watch takes a common button battery, and a watch-face icon monitors its depletion. If the battery is allowed to run out, the gun will not operate.
http://fortune.com/2015/04/22/smart-guns-theyre-ready-are-we/
Yeah, it's only a .22 and it's $1,700. My first calculator was more than $100 and now they give away a better one with AARP dues. There's a 9mm in the works for the police market and with reliability 50 times the "industry standard" it shouldn't meet much resistance on that issue.
This guy Mauch is just another gun grabbing prohibitionist, right? No, he was the chief designer at H&K for 30 years and is credited with designing the most reliable assault weapon ever made.
Oh my! If the batteries run down it won't fire! Well my new $28,000 truck won't start if the battery runs down either but I've been driving for 52 years and the number of times that has happened can be counted on the fingers of one hand. If that concerns you use Lithium Ion batteries with a 10 year shelf life or just change them out when you change the smoke detector batteries.
The technology is here, it is reliable and getting more reliable and smaller every year. I just purchased a Windows 10 computer that measures 1.24 inches by 3 inches by .25 inches with 128 gigs storage upgrade-able to another 128 gig for $250. The price and size of biometrics will come down and even the Ludites among us will adopt.
Welcome to the 21st century. Stop living in the 17th.
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A fingerprint function on a firearm would pretty much stop me from shooting. My fingerprints
Waldorf
Jan 2016
#6
Would you trust skydiving with a parachute as reliable as your smartphone's fingerprint scanner?
krispos42
Feb 2016
#11
We're not talking about "fly by wire". We're talking about biometric identification.
krispos42
Feb 2016
#27
Well, do you still maintain that smart guns are unreliable and too slow to be of use? nt
flamin lib
Feb 2016
#36
That car would never be built because no reasonable manufacturer would want the liability.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#24