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branford

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43. The First Amendment does NOT permit an aethist to stand up in a PRIVATE church and blaspheme God.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

Similarly, if the MDA meeting were held in a private location not open to the public, gun rights supporters, open carrying or otherwise, would be unable to attend. If the MDA supporters only wanted to preach to the proverbial choir they shouldn't have held their meeting at a public library.

Further, while I personally don't particularly like open carry in more urban areas if concealed carry is readily available under a "shall issue" regime, it's hardly surprising that those who support the practice or simply oppose MDA or strict gun control would avail themselves of their legal rights in political protest . When people push, expect others to push back. This is the very nature of politics. [I'm also confident in assuming that MDA generally doesn't approve of concealed carry and would complain just as loudly if such individuals attended their meeting]

The claims of "intimidation" without far more facts also rings hollow. I give them no more credence that I do colleagues (I'm a NYC attorney) who ridiculously complain about not wanting to be around "dangerous" or "unpredictable" youth in NYC simply because they're minority males wearing baggy pants and listening to hip-hop but are otherwise bothering no one.

If the open carriers were actually doing anything unlawful, such as brandishing, engaging in actual threats or real harassment, etc., MDA would assuredly have called the police. As they apparently did not do so, and nor any arrests reported, in the future MDA and others might just have to learn to get along with other law-abiding Americans with whom they strongly disagree, regardless of their personal fear or dislike of otherwise lawful activity. It is readily apparent that some people need to learn about diversity and multiculturalism, and it's not gun rights supporters.

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Were they exercising their First Amendment rights? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #1
It's all the rage now, for armed thugs to "take over" whatever they want, and bully people 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #2
look to be peaceful Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #3
There's a word for it. flamin lib Jan 2016 #4
Ah, psychology, whose terminology is used more for moral opprobrium than for therapy. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #5
It's the fear of weapons, lately appropriated by the Ammosexual flamin lib Jan 2016 #8
You know, I don't care about penis reference, ad nauseum... Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #14
But can you enjoy life outside your door without a gun (concealed or not)? flamin lib Jan 2016 #17
A: Yes. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #20
If only you could be bothered to substantiate any of it... beevul Jan 2016 #18
WTF... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #34
Ammosexual SecularMotion Jan 2016 #35
Since when.... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #36
Makes a fine t-shirt too discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #45
Far more often... beevul Jan 2016 #6
"Self-medication:" Take a psych 101 course, and you're a bleedin' M.D. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #15
Good morning boys and girls discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #46
It could also be posturing. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #7
seems to me you would be incorrect Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #9
Ah, Ducky, you have my deepest sympathy and caring concern flamin lib Jan 2016 #11
please to not insult me by calling me ducky Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #12
I do not consider it to be derogatory, only a diminutive of a much flamin lib Jan 2016 #13
Your sincere concerns are an ocean of sand. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #16
You can not fight 'gainst your deepest of fears flamin lib Jan 2016 #19
Whose fighting? Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #22
We are so far out in the weeds that only the two of us have half a clue. flamin lib Jan 2016 #27
Okay. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #38
for some reason I do not believe you Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #29
How many were wounded? DonP Jan 2016 #10
Hard case to make... beevul Jan 2016 #21
They're having a good old fashioned "10 Minute hate" in GD on this DonP Jan 2016 #24
I know, right? beevul Jan 2016 #25
My favorite myth: "75% of the NRA members agree with us" DonP Jan 2016 #26
he has lots of time to spam here Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #30
A dozen... sarisataka Jan 2016 #23
they sat in open chairs it looks like Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #31
all we have is a tweet from Watts gejohnston Jan 2016 #28
yep looks like all hell is Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #32
Finally 2A progressives refuse to be bullied by a 1%ers astro turf group. ileus Jan 2016 #33
For those who don't speak fluent Gun Controlese: "Crashed" = "Walked in and Sat Down" DonP Jan 2016 #37
Nice! (sarcasm) Neon Gods Jan 2016 #39
How many times has this happened previously? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #40
That's the thing about the 2A...you never know when it's needed until you're ileus Jan 2016 #41
"Crashed" implies they forced their way into a private meeting - that's a lie DonP Jan 2016 #42
The First Amendment does NOT permit an aethist to stand up in a PRIVATE church and blaspheme God. branford Jan 2016 #43
I know, right Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #44
I call bullshit! beevul Jan 2016 #47
lol Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #48
Well, I think they do take very long naps DonP Jan 2016 #49
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