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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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3. You should maybe speak with your Congress critter about that
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

Why are federal prosecutors not doing their jobs?


"NJ's gun laws aren't working because they're easy to skirt..."

Does that mean that PA's gun laws are working?
You can WALK from Camden to Philly in maybe 30 minutes.
Philly used to have a much worse violent crime problem. What happened? Here's a clue: it wasn't gun laws.



"Guns are being trafficked into camden at an astonishing rate..."

From where? Philly? Is Philly some lower crime haven because it neighbors Camden, an epic violence haven? If the guns are coming Philly, why doesn't Philly have the problem? If the guns are coming from somewhere else then where? The other bordering states are New York and Delaware which have non-trivial gun laws of their own. Maryland is a short hop across Delaware but it also has gun restrictions. Your train of logic is on the wrong track.



Of the guns traced from Camden in the report you linked, the median 'time-to-crime' was 6.1 years; that's the same as the national median.


NJ's gun laws aren't working.
Do they need to change a bit? Yes.
Should they be scrapped all together? No.

Did New Jersey benefit even a tiny bit from persecuting Shaneen Allen? Hell no! That was a national embarrassment.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/04/gov_christie_grants_pardon_to_pistol-packing_pa_mo.html



Stupid gun law band-aids aren't the miracle blessing that's needed.



Here's an off topic question: Is it valid to blame the tool or means for the actions of the user?

Why not blame cheesecake for obesity?

Blame alcohol for DUIs? Now there's a good target for a ban.

I'm not saying shall issue would help. I am saying de facto no issue isn't helping.

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Guns, what works and what's just stupid [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP
the explanation is simple EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #1
current federal gun laws are being violated gejohnston Oct 2015 #2
You should maybe speak with your Congress critter about that discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #3
sorry EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #17
Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #18
If the crime rates are far lower in the places those guns come from... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #4
Maybe it's just... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #8
"Make (laws) national and see what happens." Like the 18th Amendment? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #6
Why does Camden have such a demand for the tools of crime? krispos42 Oct 2015 #12
+1 ^^^ discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #13
Now krispos... beevul Oct 2015 #14
Oh, right... krispos42 Oct 2015 #15
I was just wondering if you were planning to answer discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #16
time flies, in camden too jimmy the one Oct 2015 #5
Stunning progress for Camden discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #7
Am I good or what? jimmy the one Oct 2015 #10
you're fantastic discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #11
A separate issue discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #9
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