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Gun Control & RKBA

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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:02 AM Oct 2015

For your consideration, nothing more. [View all]

Some here get their tender feelings hurt over an imagined attack on “gun culture” like the war on Christmas. Well, let me say right out loud that such an attack, if it exists, isn't necessarily a bad thing for society at large or for responsible gun owners.

Some would say we (anti gun violence activists) should treat guns like tobacco but I reject that approach because I can think of nothing good or benign about smoking tobacco. The fringe of my movement might disagree but I see no inherent evil in firearms.

A much better model would be MADD. MADD's goal was never to ban cars or end drinking, only to reduce as much as possible the ill effects to combining the two. The campaign was very successful in that it greatly reduced the carnage of drunk driving. Do people still die in DUI “accidents”? Yeah, but not as many as before. Do people still enjoy competitive driving sports like drag racing, road courses and rallies? Sure they do. Do people still enjoy cocktail parties? Oh hell yes. Just not as many of us combine the two as before.

What would I hope to see from such an approach? An awareness in the general public that some people just shouldn't have access to guns. I'd like that awareness to include those who may currently want to have guns. Take the guy going through a nasty divorce with child custody at stake. I'd like to see that person consider removing guns from the situation until it is fully resolved. Voluntarily put them in the possession of someone he trusts to be fair and distanced from the emotional strain.

I'd like to see someone who has a substance abuse problem recognize that having a gun around isn't a good idea. I'd like the idea to at least occur to them that perhaps guns and bourbon by the bottle aren't a good combination.

I'd like to see someone suffering from depression or PTSD consider the danger of having a gun readily available. I'd like them to take the affirmative action of placing their guns in the hands of someone they trust until they are better.

That's what MADD did. They changed the way the public and in particular the people who drive and enjoy alcohol think about both cars and alcohol.

If we activists could accomplish that would everyone still be able to enjoy hunting, sports shooting and collecting? Yes. Would the population at large develop a more relaxed view of responsible gun owners? I think so. Would the level of carnage decrease a bit? I believe it would.

Call this a drive by or whatever but I don't intend to engage the usual suspects. It's just here for your consideration.

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"Call this a drive by or whatever but I don't intend to engage the usual suspects" DonP Oct 2015 #1
+ 1,000,000,000 NT pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #21
MADD also SHAMED people who drank and drove especially if in accidents, etc. randys1 Oct 2015 #2
What about people who drink but don't drive drunk? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #5
You felt shame sarisataka Oct 2015 #9
AT this point seeing the harm done by guns, if you are not for getting rid of them for the randys1 Oct 2015 #10
You can't even see sarisataka Oct 2015 #11
You betcha, I fail yet I am the one for less death by getting rid of unecessary randys1 Oct 2015 #12
MADD never, as you noted, sarisataka Oct 2015 #13
Oops. I think his rolly-poly stopped. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #15
Well, randys1, you clearly enjoy your sweet moral pleasures more than anything else. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #17
Who deserves shame? Straw Man Oct 2015 #20
Shaming credentials check. beardown Oct 2015 #16
This is why arguing with the gun crowd is a waste of time. randys1 Oct 2015 #18
"Well, you cant shame the adamant ones that think they have some special right to own guns." GGJohn Oct 2015 #19
Thank you for recognizing this group as being open to suggestions. edgineered Oct 2015 #3
MADD screwed everyone... freebrew Oct 2015 #4
hunting, sports shooting, and collecting....what about self defense??? ileus Oct 2015 #6
I've used the MADD campaign as a example beardown Oct 2015 #7
"They changed the way the public and in particular the people who drive and enjoy alcohol think" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #8
Will you put your money where your mouth is though? beevul Oct 2015 #14
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