Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Weapons common on Oregon college campus despite 'gun-free zone' [View all]jimmy the one
(2,720 posts)decoy: You're asking for proof of a logical fallacy... it is a logical impossibility to stop a "mass shooting", since if it qualifies as a mass shooting, it was not, by definition, "stopped" by the CCWer.
Huh? double double talk talk your forte'? Pathetically weak argument you make, since any mass shooting could indeed be 'stopped' by an armed citizen or cops by stopping the shooter from shooting anymore, killing or incapacitating him in some manner. DUH. Don't conflate 'stopped' with 'prevented' anymore please.
Is there an example in school shootings or a mall shooting or these public facilities, where that has been wrong? Where a bad guy with a gun has been stopped in any other way or by a person other than a law enforcement officer with a gun or by killing himself? asked Blackwell.
It's clear enough to those of us more informed on the issue than the fake of fenris & friends, what blackwell was asking Shannon Watts, and she interpreted the question as pertaining to mass shootings at churches, schools, or public facilities, implied by Blackwell.
decoy: What I linked were, to the best of my knowledge, situations that, in honest examinations, -would have- turned into mass shootings if the shooter was left unmolested by CCW holders.
Conjecture does not a mass shooting make. You cannot apply your biased hypotheticals to smear someone else citing stats on what actually transpired. Logic fallacy & all that. And you again are describing 'preventing' a mass shooting, not stopping one in progress.
decoy: In the instance you cited, the construction foreman stopped a threat that obviously had the intent of becoming a mass shooter.
You surely mean he prevented the possibility of a mass shooting. And the gunman evidently gave forewarning, mass shooters usually rely on surprise: Austin police .. said the suspect was recently fired from the construction site and returned with a gun. He opened fire on the sites foreman, who drew his own gun and returned fire hitting the suspect. Police say the suspect had recently returned to the site and had been threatening the foreman..
decoy: If we're ever going to discuss violence civilly and with a reasonable expectation of progress, we need to be able to admit when we're wrong, JTO.
I admit error when due, but not to some charlatan using hypotheticals to make it seem so, so go soak your head.