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24. Of Something Different
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:09 AM
Mar 2023

There's always that fear that you will get absorbed by or pushed aside by something different. Ideas, people and such.

Visited L'Anse aus Medows in NF, the only known Viking (European) settlement in North America. The first Vikings we not necessarily the best representatives of European peoples. The local Indian tribes basically ran them out of their settlement, probably because they didn't "play nice" with the local population. The Inuit were also suitably hostile to the Vikings settlements in Greenland (and poor relations with them probably contributed to the settlements demise). So it wasn't always a one-sided conflict.

It wasn't all war and conflict when Europeans met the local natives. And it wasn't always a one-sided affair for European dominance. Some Europeans did manage to coexist with the local native populations (William Penn, Conrad Weiser and probably others) but the overall result was not favorable to the native populations in the long run.

The native Americans aren't truly gone, fragments of their existence live on in place names and local stories. Patches of tribes still exist even on the east coast hundreds of years after the Europeans settled here. The story of Natives completely pushed out of their lands is probably not true. Remnant populations remained, sometimes distinct and intermingled, adjusted and overcame. If you listen and look hard enough you will find their shadows still remain.

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we are a violent species. mopinko Mar 2023 #1
Yes, Putin is not really an exception historically Walleye Mar 2023 #3
Do you think it was at some point a necessity for survival? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #13
When people get the upper hand they need to push other people around Walleye Mar 2023 #2
it's like w dogs- mopinko Mar 2023 #4
I agree with you on both points there Walleye Mar 2023 #6
well, evolutionary psychology posits mopinko Mar 2023 #12
I never thought of that. Nice. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #15
Evolutionary psychology debunked cbabe Mar 2023 #26
Great article! Thank you. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #30
good article. mopinko Mar 2023 #34
But is that changing? I'm thinking of the women at Abu Ghraib. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #10
yes it is. mopinko Mar 2023 #17
I'm trying to think if I, as a woman, would want to physically dominate people Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #5
I know, but as a rule we physically are superior to children and don't treat them badly Walleye Mar 2023 #7
True. For most of us. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #8
Oh yes that's what makes it so fascinating and so frustrating,a giant moral spectrum good to evil Walleye Mar 2023 #9
And there are backslides. I think we are in a backslide in the US now. That's what prompted the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #11
i've given it some thought from time to time. lol mopinko Mar 2023 #21
Europe DID go through dreadful suffering for centuries in the middle ages. raging moderate Mar 2023 #14
Everything about European psychology does hark back to Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #16
And re-reading your post, just as violence goes from parent Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #22
Interesting question-I would say it comes from what some call man's original sin - the ego. c-rational Mar 2023 #18
What do you think were the insults to the ego that caused the "othering?" Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #32
Not so much an insult per se, rather just the existence of an ego which fools you into believing c-rational Mar 2023 #33
Fear modrepub Mar 2023 #19
Of what, do you think? I know with Native Americans Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #20
My first known European American immigrant ancestor married an Algonquin lady in Quebec. raging moderate Mar 2023 #23
Of Something Different modrepub Mar 2023 #24
Fear of being absorbed is definitely in there, and we are seeing that surging today. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #31
Conrad believed the origin and true nature of the heart of darkness could never be clearly Martin68 Mar 2023 #25
I did not know this. And he certainly made a study of it. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #27
Pretty simple orthoclad Mar 2023 #28
I see your point. I'm thinking of, for example, the Sierra Leone civil war or the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #29
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