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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
20. late to the party ...
Sun May 20, 2012, 07:23 PM
May 2012

Ancestry has very little Scottish info. The Scottish govt has cut a deal with FindMyPast and Ancestry doesn't have permission to make images of UK census records for Scotland available even, so you're left relying on their abysmal transcriptions for 1841 onward.

FreeBMD covers only England and Wales. But for anybody using it and wanting certificates, always remember to order them directly from the GRO and not from an intermediary, including Ancestry, as you will be ripped off severely.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

But back to Scotland:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Register free, search free. You have to buy credits to see results. They are cheap. You can view a page of search results for almost nothing. Downloading a copy of an actual record costs a bit more.

It won't help you, but for general info, the site has Scottish censuses 1841 to 1911.

The other databases are:

Statutory Registers 1855-2009
(registration began in 1855; access to recent records is restricted and has to be requested by mail)
Births
Marriages
Deaths

Old Parish Registers pre-1855
(theoretically back to 1538, the earliest records, but coverage before 1855 is spotty -- I did find my grx3 grfather from southern England remarrying there circa 1840, inexplicably, and his wife's death there, but damned if I can find anything else about her)
Births & Baptisms
Banns & Marriages
Deaths & Burials

Catholic Registers 1700s to 1900s
Births & Baptisms
Banns & Marriages
Deaths & Burials
Other Events

familsearch.org does have many of these records -- I see my grx3 grfather's marriage is there now, as records get added. I was able to get the actual image at SP.

So if, for instance, you have the names of a couple who emigrated to the US, you could try parish registers at SP to see whether you could identify their marriage.

If so, you would have struck gold, because there's a good chance it would name both parents of both parties, including mother's birth surnames. And then if you could identify their deaths in Scotland, the death records would give both of their parents' names, and possibly their marriage details as well.

- Edit - or if you know the name of a child the couple had in Scotland who emigrated with them, the child's baptism record might give both parents' names and the parents' marriage info. Or if you just know the name of one person but have a good idea of the person's year of birth, you could try for their baptism record.

In English parish records (registration there began in 1837), by the time you get back to the late 1700s, you often find that only the father's name is given in baptism records, and if the mother is named there is virtually never a surname.

Scottish parish records are very complete in that regard, whereas English marriage registrations, for example, give only fathers' names for the parties.

If you are comfortable PMing me I could take a shot at helping with an SP search, but I don't have any active credits at the moment -- they expire after a certain time -- or I'd volunteer them for you.

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We're not sure about our Scottish ancestors csziggy Jan 2012 #1
does ancestry.com help un-complicate these things or not? I really wonder... CTyankee Jan 2012 #2
It depends a lot - they do not have much from Scotland csziggy Jan 2012 #3
Thank you for the info. Very helpful. CTyankee Jan 2012 #5
I've got Williams, but way, way back csziggy Jan 2012 #6
My husband's Scottish Ancestors came long before that. kdmorris Jan 2012 #4
Have you looked at the Virginia State Archives online? csziggy Jan 2012 #7
Thanks for Posting Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #8
THe worst thing is that their links do not allow bookmarking csziggy Jan 2012 #11
Don't know if this would help... pipi_k Mar 2012 #15
Ohhhhhh that is awesome! kdmorris Jan 2012 #9
There were later Samuel Clarks and many other Clarks csziggy Jan 2012 #10
A lot of good information. Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #30
I'm glad it helped! csziggy May 2012 #32
I went to school with a Samuel Clark in the Mountains of Va. dgibby Mar 2012 #13
WHAT? kdmorris Mar 2012 #19
My Scottish ancestors came prior to about 1750. Not sure how much prior. kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #12
My Scottish ancestors dgibby Mar 2012 #14
I'm not recalling the exact reason why my Scottish family came over The Genealogist Mar 2012 #16
It is interesting. Are your forbears Southerners at all? CTyankee Mar 2012 #17
The Campbell I have is not southern at all as far as I can tell The Genealogist Mar 2012 #18
I don't know about 1790 per se or scots but savannah boomed shortly thereafter. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #52
late to the party ... iverglas May 2012 #20
Thanks. I'm interested in why these Scots went to America, how they secured help to get CTyankee May 2012 #21
googling: scotland emigration 1790 iverglas May 2012 #23
Wow, I'm glad I found you! CTyankee May 2012 #24
almost 100% English iverglas May 2012 #26
oh crap, eh? iverglas May 2012 #22
According to family lore, his wife's name was Sarah... CTyankee May 2012 #25
go play at scotlandspeople! iverglas May 2012 #27
according to tattered family records, his son was named Watt Campbell. Later I was CTyankee May 2012 #28
I wish I knew. I have Scottish ancenstry on my father's side RZM May 2012 #29
A girl once ask me (who was not familiar with the Scot-Irish mix): "What's the difference between AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #31
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lots of good info here--thanks marions ghost Aug 2012 #39
Thanks. I don't understand why we don't have MORE understanding of the Scots experience CTyankee Aug 2012 #40
Somebody could collect some stories of Scottish heritage in America marions ghost Aug 2012 #41
ack CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #42
I have no idea. My mother's mother was a Campbell. She married James Brown in El Paso. CTyankee Sep 2012 #43
Many Campbells and Browns were Indian CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #44
Well, all I have is family lore than our forebear is Alexander Campbell who emigrated to the CTyankee Sep 2012 #45
There was no mention in mine either CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #46
It's really interesting. My son is married to a MacKenzie and somewhere I heard that CTyankee Sep 2012 #47
Some Campbells were indeed Irish CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #48
My father was a Mason, but he was of Welsh heritage, a Williams...can't get more CTyankee Sep 2012 #49
I've got Williams relations too CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #50
I never was really interested in how the Williams side came over. But I should have CTyankee Sep 2012 #51
Thanks for mentioning this -- I hadn't considered the role of the Clearances in my family history htuttle Jun 2013 #53
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