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In reply to the discussion: 2nd and 3rd wave feminism [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)do you get that? you say it yourself. you get where the issue with with the pageant. me? i care even less about it. and a person choosing to participate.
but, i too, recognize the inherent issues.
all the stuff you said in your post is NO different from anyone else.
you want to see your daughter strippin for others? of course you dont. for all the inherent problems and issues in strippin for pay.
the difference is, you validate and justify you desire to play in that at the expense of ANOTHER persons daughter (and i am not talking you personally), whereas i chose NOT to participate because i understand what i am doing to another human being, the issue as a whole and reality.... personal.
what i find amazing is the lack of honesty in the third wave.
i really dont get what wave i am in. i really dont give a shit.
but i am not going to tie a pretty bow on it when i know damn well there is not a pretty bow. want to do it, fine. call it what it is. pretending it is something else to make it all pretty is dishonest to me.
every person (besides the guys dehumanizing this woman) declared they dont like pageants because of the problems they cause. every person.
that says something.
i dont see where the battle is. even again, after listening to you, i dont see it.
there is a battle. i see that clearly. but as of yet, i dont see what the difference is. besides wanting to do whatever you want without having to realize the consequences. and no one gets away from that. that is just life. it may be the whole that suffers. but there are always consequences....
on edit... reading my point. very messy. i cannot get clarity on it. seems talking past, beyond, around each other and it all feels the same. will think on it.