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hlthe2b

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8. Ignoring that discrepancy, to suggest the overwhelming majority of cars manufactured AFTER 2000

Reply to Old Crank (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:43 PM

Apr 12

are E15 approved is beyond bullshit. Most Japanese manufacturers (not only Toyota) that have approved its use, did not approve its use until well after 2024 and then not all models. My Toyota dealership indicated there are other imported cars that cannot either. Yes, Jeep and other American vehicles can, but...

Well, read your manual and don't listen to what is being reported by the administration is all I can say. And, given the sourcing, I'd have a jaundiced eye toward MSM reporting as well.

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As E15 Gas Becomes More Common, Remember That It's Terrible For These Engines [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Apr 12 OP

Um .... what choice do we have? Like there are E10 only gas stations? /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 12 #1

Gemini: Who Enforces the Rules? bucolic_frolic Apr 12 #3

Do NOT use in Toyotas. It will VOID your warranty... hlthe2b Apr 12 #2

Not sure where the 96 percent from. Old Crank Apr 12 #5

Ignoring that discrepancy, to suggest the overwhelming majority of cars manufactured AFTER 2000 hlthe2b Apr 12 #8

I have a 2019 VW GTI Autobahn. The owners manual says to use E-free, so that's what I do. ms liberty Apr 12 #4

I have been reading some articles by Jalopnik Old Crank Apr 12 #6

File this misinformation under, as my dad would say, OH, BULLSHIT! This is a story paid for by the petroleum industry. ffr Apr 12 #7

Ethanol can be corrosive. And if you want to void a Toyota warranty that specifically says so, hlthe2b Apr 12 #9

Thank you for confirming what I wrote and you appearently didn't read in what I wrote. ffr Apr 12 #10

You wrote: "is ethanol harmful to engines. No" hlthe2b Apr 12 #11

That is not my opinion, that is fact! Ethanol has no chemical properties in it that harms engines. ffr Apr 12 #12

Simply not true. I am not going to argue with someone who ignores basic chemistry and hlthe2b Apr 12 #13

You fail to debate correctly. Impeach what I have said and provide references that back up your claims ffr Apr 12 #14

No I just don't see you worth my time. Ethanol is inherently corrosive--only a matter of degree hlthe2b Apr 12 #15

Once again, you are failing to impeach what I've said. You use a cut-n-paste from a biodieselfoundation.org "blog?' ffr Apr 12 #16

Ah yes. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit"... hlthe2b Apr 12 #17

It took you less than two minutes to read what I wrote and reply with all that? ffr Apr 12 #18

This is a tragic turn of events for the world's largest wetland, the Pantanal. NNadir Apr 12 #19