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4. This fallacious "appeal to authority" argument would do better if it appealed to someone familiar with the laws...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:08 AM
Nov 2024

...of thermodynamics.

One can not drink water exposed to coal ash generated by the combustion of coal to make hydrogen to greenwash fossil fuels.



The caption:

Figure 1. Global current sources of H2 production (a), and H2 consumption sectors (b).


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That proportion of hydrogen made by coal by the way, is almost entirely in China. Other countries use less odious, but still dangerous, fossil fuels to make this extremely dirty fuel.

The bullshit about electricity in California is pretty disgusting, given that the major source of electricity in California is dangerous natural gas.

Sources of Electrical Generation, California 2000 to Current

Note that the lone nuclear plant in California routinely and consistently (and, more important, reliably) produces more electrical energy than all the wind turbine industrial parks littering once pristine wilderness in this state. The Diablo Canyon plant has a foot print of about 13 acres. The wind plants represent hundreds, if not thousands of square miles of former wilderness trashed to kiss the ass of the fossil fuel industry.

It is economically and environmentally insane, and destructive to build plants based on the fact that for about 48 hours a year they have to limit access to solar junk - all of which will be electronic waste when today's toddlers enter college - to the grid.

One of the things I notice about people trying to rebrand fossil fuels as hydrogen is their complete lack of concern for the environment. The scale of the lie is Trumpian in nature.

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

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