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13. Any conversation that moves away from primary energy is superfluous in my view. At the end of the day...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:28 AM
Oct 2024

...the real issue is that and only that, primary energy, at least if one is seriously concerned about the extreme global heating we are now experiencing. I'm compelled to disagree with your view, in the strongest terms possible, about what is and is not "fundamental."

Heat pumps are devices that do not produce primary energy; they consume it. If the motor is electric, it is almost certain except in places like France, that electricity from primary energy that is generated by the combustion of fossil fuels.

It is true that on an industrial scale, heat pumps can be, and often are, used for process intensification, which I applaud, but their purpose is to recover some primary energy that would otherwise be rejected into the environment, but that issue is technical. For household use, heat pumps are merely devices that consume energy, again, generally energy supplied by the combustion of dangerous fossil fuels with significant exergy destruction. They have, therefore, almost nothing to do with addressing the extreme global heating we are now experiencing since they have nothing to do with waste heat recovery.

As a technical issue, this is certainly out of the realm of comprehension by the likes of "Gore is the same as Bush," "Alito is the same as Ginsberg," Michael Moore.

What Michael Moore doesn't know about the world could certainly fill, and does fill, vast libraries. I have no use for the guy either as a philosopher, a political or social thinker, or a person who has any understanding of the world.





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