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NNadir

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14. It would be (very slightly) less odious if instead of methane, they chose DME. (They have industrial DME plants.)
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 01:26 PM
Oct 2024

At least that would be less of a greenhouse gas threat.

DME has an atmospheric half life of about 5 days.

Interestingly the hydrogenation of carbon dioxide to make methanol, DME, and/or methane is exothermic, even if the entropy may be assumed to slightly negative as five gas molecules are reduced to three gas molecules in the methane case, nine gas molecules to seven in the DME case. If the generated heat is not recovered in some way, the exergy loss is increased, although I often reflect on using these reactions to drive heat engines, thus recovering exergy.

The point is, all the fossil fuel marketing going on here rebranding those fuels as "hydrogen" notwithstanding, all this will only make the climate disaster worse, faster.

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There are very few processes that come to a dead end. Unintended/unforseen consequences is the sea we swim in. marble falls Oct 2024 #1
Unfortunately, the hydrogen scam is being sold, widely, as "green" and sustainable. It is no such thing. It's filthy. NNadir Oct 2024 #3
No one ever sees a downside to grasping at straws to eliminate the net zero conclussion at the runaway use of energy ... marble falls Oct 2024 #4
Why do you say it would be "huge step back in the American lifestyle?" hunter Oct 2024 #9
Sounds like you already know the answer to your question. We need a huge step back in the American lifestyle ... marble falls Oct 2024 #11
I still don't see what you mean by "step back." hunter Oct 2024 #12
I completely agree that we need to build out Green Hydrogen as much and as quickly as possible. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #2
Culprit here is not your nemesis H2, but rather coal and methane Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #5
My point is that hydrogen is a scam designed to greenwash fossil fuels. Mechanistic details are trivial. NNadir Oct 2024 #6
The hydrogen here is not greenwashing. As an intermediate, net production is zero. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #7
You're entitled to your own wrong opinion. NNadir Oct 2024 #8
Yes, we need to build out GREEN Hydrogen which is made and used without any CO2 emissions. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #10
China is envious of the U.S.A. natural gas pipeline network. hunter Oct 2024 #13
It would be (very slightly) less odious if instead of methane, they chose DME. (They have industrial DME plants.) NNadir Oct 2024 #14
We mock what we cannot use a rational argument against OKIsItJustMe Oct 2024 #15
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