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hunter

(39,239 posts)
12. I still don't see what you mean by "step back."
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:14 AM
Oct 2024

Quitting a bad habit like smoking would be a "step forward" to a healthier life.

Taking up smoking again, after quitting, would be a "step back."

Today is not any kind of golden age and yesterday was only worse. There is no golden age of humanity, even when earth's human population was measured in the millions.

When I was a kid my grandma would drive me and my siblings around Los Angeles in her Cadillac. That car got terrible gas mileage and had no smog control systems. The gasoline sold then contained toxic lead that damaged people's brains and nervous systems. The air in the city was often brown and obviously poisonous, it burned your eyes, throat, and lungs. Does anyone want to "step back" to that?

Hydrogen was being proposed as a solution to the smog problem in the 'sixties. It was bullshit then as it is now. Cleaning up one place, let's say Los Angeles or Beijing, by sacrificing another place, the Mojave or Mongolian deserts, is not a step forward, it's a step back.

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There are very few processes that come to a dead end. Unintended/unforseen consequences is the sea we swim in. marble falls Oct 2024 #1
Unfortunately, the hydrogen scam is being sold, widely, as "green" and sustainable. It is no such thing. It's filthy. NNadir Oct 2024 #3
No one ever sees a downside to grasping at straws to eliminate the net zero conclussion at the runaway use of energy ... marble falls Oct 2024 #4
Why do you say it would be "huge step back in the American lifestyle?" hunter Oct 2024 #9
Sounds like you already know the answer to your question. We need a huge step back in the American lifestyle ... marble falls Oct 2024 #11
I still don't see what you mean by "step back." hunter Oct 2024 #12
I completely agree that we need to build out Green Hydrogen as much and as quickly as possible. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #2
Culprit here is not your nemesis H2, but rather coal and methane Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #5
My point is that hydrogen is a scam designed to greenwash fossil fuels. Mechanistic details are trivial. NNadir Oct 2024 #6
The hydrogen here is not greenwashing. As an intermediate, net production is zero. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #7
You're entitled to your own wrong opinion. NNadir Oct 2024 #8
Yes, we need to build out GREEN Hydrogen which is made and used without any CO2 emissions. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #10
China is envious of the U.S.A. natural gas pipeline network. hunter Oct 2024 #13
It would be (very slightly) less odious if instead of methane, they chose DME. (They have industrial DME plants.) NNadir Oct 2024 #14
We mock what we cannot use a rational argument against OKIsItJustMe Oct 2024 #15
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