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jfz9580m

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12. You have a point
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 12:24 AM
Sep 2024

Thanks for all the info .

This Sc Am article captures how I feel about it. It is not the scientists I am worried about so much as the “entrepreneurs” (ie often people with the same myopic, greedy, crass mindset that got us here in the first place):
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/geoengineering-wins-reluctant-interest-from-scientists-as-earths-climate/

If natural systems were modified with proper scientific oversight (ie not with an expert in the pocket of scientifically incurious and myopic creeps looking to make money off of “green energy”) it could be viable I suppose.

However, the role of the disinterested scientist should not get diluted down to a joke. These are complex topics that very few people have any real expertise in and so the need for trusted disinterested experts is vital.

What alarmed me about that article was the indication that industry would go ahead with some of it without much public debate.

As for reasonable standards re public engagement on such complex matters..that is another nightmare these days.

Looking at how Covid went, public skepticism about science can often be driven by nonsense . Therefore, I am not saying that we need experts who can convince Marjorie Green that space lasers and vaccines are not killing babies..

The truth is I don’t understand these issues any better than Marjorie Green does (well okay probably better than Marjorie Green but that is a low bar), but our concerns are over very different matters. Mine is more of a generic concern about deregulation from the private sector not distrust of democratic governance or mainstream scientific consensus.

I posted this elsewhere -a really cool oped by Dr Francis Collins of the NIH that is tangentially relevant to all of this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/20/opinion/covid-vaccines-truth-life-death.html

Thanks for all the reading material again .

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I know jfz9580m Sep 2024 #3
Two observations OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #4
Thanks for your thoughtful post jfz9580m Sep 2024 #5
You're welcome. A little light reading... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #6
I have mixed feelings about those strategies jfz9580m Sep 2024 #9
I certainly have "mixed feelings" OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #11
You have a point jfz9580m Sep 2024 #12
If you want some serious reading material... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #13
Thanks jfz9580m Sep 2024 #14
Better to go forward - or even stay in place - than go backwards at light speed. RandomNumbers Sep 2024 #15
I'm not as optimistic at this point OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #16
Earth didn't breach anything. We did. hatrack Sep 2024 #7
Well put! OKIsItJustMe Sep 2024 #8
Bang on jfz9580m Sep 2024 #10
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