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47. Marie Kondo can take a big dumpster and shove it where
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 08:11 PM
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It's quite simply "Do you own goods, or do they own you?"

I have ALWAYS valued things for their expected future value or usefulness. When I moved to the wilderness near a well-known national park, I thought that friends would drop by and enjoy the scenery (almost a nice as that national park, on a much smaller scale, and no parking problems) and gourmet preparations.

Nada

So, I gave my daughter a lot of expensive cookware to sell on Craig's List and keep the money.

Lately, as I approach {redacted} years, I just don't need the isolation and the maintenance on the "Ponderosa Ranch" here, so I am downsizing to give me more options for a move where stores and services aren't a 50 mile drive. And that is based entirely on "Did I use this in the last 10 years here?" and "Will I ever need this again?" which will vary a bit with the destination.

When water started pouring in the window frame during a storm, I had the "magic" waterproof tape on hand, same for the bend in the gutter. One of the big achievements was finding electronic versions of 15 totes worth of printed books that I paid good money for.

The only really problematical item is the historical microcomputer. Museums seem to only want autographed stuff, or expect me to pay shipping on 80 or more pounds of gear. But I am concentrating on odds and ends. "It will work out"

BELIEVE ME. I was married for 27 years to someone who gave me the daily "Throw, Throw" speech. It was quite the experience from hell, but I stayed in order to be the best Dad I could be to the most wonderful daughter imaginable. And it was worth having my own Marie Kondo at home all that time. I am truly made of steel.

But I'm practical. My Dad collected Madonna statues, the religious kind not the pop kind, and I gave all but two to my ex. He also collected cow creamers. He started collecting when he saw a purple cow creamer on a visit to Maine. I kept a few and let my niece have the rest of them as mementos. I don't have many sentimental pieces. An old mechanical Spirograph, a couple of small slide rules to shock people with, as I calculate gas mileage faster than Siri can!!

So as not to ramble (more), People should understand that many people collect things out a a feeling of lack, somewhere in the past, and, humans being a bit cantankerous, myself VERY cantankerous, one should understand causes and effects and help people feel more themselves and less dependent on "things".

I remember very little from the previous 30 or so years, compared to the treasure of raising a great kid who is now a great adult. These are "treasures of the heart" ... (except that wonderful radial arm saw .... sigh)

Dad was an artist who used brushes, oils and canvas to create. My grandfather was a carpenter who used tools to build. I admit it. Dad had 3 or 4 tools, that's all, so I compensated, though most of my time now is spent on the artistic side, with photography and music (when not repairing gutters).

When people don't understand something, they devalue it to zero. I forgot who said it, Alan Watts? That people we call materialistic are the LEAST materialistic. They don't have things for their intrinsic value, like a piece of olive wood I have with beautiful grain and veining, but just its cash value. It's as if weight were a measure of value, or how high you can pile things, or how "All my friends have Porches, I can't make amends".

Of course, besides the artistic side, I have the tinkerer mentality and the coolest thing ever was that transparent wristwatch. You didn't have to take it apart to see how it works (admittedly, it was little more than a tuning fork). I did take lots of things apart, though. And as for computers, I built them from kits with bare boards and a big bag of parts. I have a good feel for what's going on with this computer in front of me. and an appreciation.

But ultimately, we are in an extreme capitalist culture of endless duplication. Everyone has the same items they rarely use and never share or exchange. This is especially hard on older citizens, and I am focused on a more "sharing economy" having gone from a family "compound" where three brothers, my dad and two uncles, lived in adjoining houses, and we had old world traditions, to my own family. Three in one home, and then two homes and now three homes, all with expenses and taxes and duplicated thingys. Not saying we need to move back together, but that things should be easier to share "just in time". They are soooooooooo far away.

At the very least, we should have communities where someone is nearby to help in a pinch.

Community is not a "thing". It's an idea with practical action as a result. And good feelings.

And Marie Kondo BUYS her friends.

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You better get busy then. 🤓😀❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #30
I had a woman stay with me for a couple of months because she was in hard times. She had so much stuff Deuxcents Tuesday #2
OH MY GOD/DESS!! This hit me in the gut!!! Coventina Tuesday #36
Now, this has got me 😢 I can understand your original post better. Deuxcents Tuesday #51
Such generational trauma runs in the family. Coventina Tuesday #52
Sad what happens to little children and the adults don't realize or say..they'll get over it 😔 Deuxcents Tuesday #54
I'm not a minimalist and I love my treasures Niagara Tuesday #3
I figure I gave up a SECURE job in broadcasting to go home and be a full time mom. calimary Tuesday #4
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After volunteering for years with arts and children's causes... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #32
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ding . this . AllaN01Bear Tuesday #9
Keeper of the flame is a noble endeavor. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #35
Sun and Moon in Cancer here. I love everything you said!!! Coventina Tuesday #38
its my stuff , leave me alone . and everything is allocated to another person via a will AllaN01Bear Tuesday #8
I'm with you! mtngirl47 Tuesday #10
That's ME! Word for word BigmanPigman Tuesday #11
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I want to keep that which I care about The Madcap Tuesday #13
Atta gurl! QueerDuck Tuesday #14
Good for you ms.pamela Tuesday #15
About china.... LisaM Tuesday #16
Hells to the yes! EuterpeThelo Tuesday #18
That's wonderful! I recently found my great-grandmother's butterchurn. I may even have a churning party! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #29
That should be fun. One of my friends is into making his own butter. niyad Tuesday #53
With a hand churn? It takes a village. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #55
He's a big, tough guy! niyad Tuesday #56
It takes hours and people usually have to take turns. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #57
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And I would be happy to be there. I can bring goodies! niyad Tuesday #60
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Pate, Brie, good baguettes, MUST have good butter! niyad Tuesday #63
Absolutely! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #64
wonderful thought there. I hereby award a gold star ... -- best post -- stopdiggin Tuesday #31
Really good post. Struggling with these issues as we type. Evolve Dammit Tuesday #17
Right with you Dammit. nt Prairie_Seagull Tuesday #21
Marie Kondo? Isn't she the one who said "Ideally, you should own fewer than thirty books"? Aristus Tuesday #19
MORE!!! niyad Tuesday #26
Years ago, I had a dear friend, whose dating life amused me no end. niyad Tuesday #45
He lack of reading undoubtedly explains his numerous fiascos. Aristus Tuesday #68
I think you are correct about his fiascos, although they provided me niyad Wednesday #69
For one of our moves, we had 50 boxes of books. 3catwoman3 Tuesday #65
No scholar would take that seriously. Thirty REFERENCE books is not even a start. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #70
Yeah. Right on. Fuck Marie Kondo. Who the hell does she think she is? FadedMullet Tuesday #20
Who the hell is she??? niyad Tuesday #27
You go!! Joinfortmill Tuesday #22
Very righteous rant, Coventina. I can't agree more. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #23
Fun fact: After Marie Kondo cluttered her house with a bunch of kids flvegan Tuesday #24
You have every right to do what's best for you. hamsterjill Tuesday #25
Whew! Glad we got THAT off of our chest! stopdiggin Tuesday #28
Who can trust a woman that doesn't want more than a few books (that crazy Kondo lady) - TBF Tuesday #33
I'll keep other people's books. But not without their consent. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #40
Darned straight. Enjoy it! Raven123 Tuesday #34
$160 a month for storage x 15 years BidenRocks Tuesday #37
I am 100% against putting stuff in paid storage. Coventina Tuesday #42
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Yes! I'm keeping my stuff too. OnionPatch Tuesday #39
EXACTLY!!! niyad Tuesday #43
In the past month, I have seen at least two dozen of these minimalist, niyad Tuesday #41
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I saw a homeless guy last week riding his bicycle JoseBalow Tuesday #48
Psychologists keep trying to label normal behaviors as disease delisen Tuesday #49
I enjoy being a loner as my home is full of treasures that I can ...occupy littlemissmartypants Tuesday #50
Art, music collections, JBTaurus83 Tuesday #62
I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. 3catwoman3 Tuesday #66
💯% with you Figarosmom Tuesday #67
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