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In reply to the discussion: Judge: Trump sought to 'manipulate the judicial process' with his IRS lawsuit and attempted $1.8B fund [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(184,868 posts)7. MaddowBlog-Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for $10 billion
If the president was waiting for a payout from his IRS lawsuit, a federal judge suggested he might need to start lowering his expectations.
Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for billion
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-04-27T19:11:24.754Z
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In response to highly dubious civil lawsuits, the Trump Justice Department has been exceedingly generous lately, agreeing to lucrative settlements with plaintiffs who are politically aligned with the White House. Whether Donald Trump will be among the beneficiaries, however, remains an open question.
A federal judge suggested late last week that the president might have to lower his expectations. Politico reported:
Although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction, Williams wrote in a four-page order.
It is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article IIIs case or controversy requirement, the judge added, referring to the Constitution.....
Shortly after his lawyers filed the case, the president told reporters that he assumed nobody would care if he received a lucrative payout as part of the frivolous litigation. That payout now appears in doubt. Watch this space.
A federal judge suggested late last week that the president might have to lower his expectations. Politico reported:
President Donald Trumps $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns ran into turbulence Friday as a judge ordered a hearing on whether the Constitution allows the president to sue the federal government he oversees.
U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Williams has asked Trumps private attorneys and Justice Department lawyers representing the IRS to address whether his control over the governments actions in the case means its the kind of dispute federal courts cannot consider.
Although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction, Williams wrote in a four-page order.
It is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article IIIs case or controversy requirement, the judge added, referring to the Constitution.....
Shortly after his lawyers filed the case, the president told reporters that he assumed nobody would care if he received a lucrative payout as part of the frivolous litigation. That payout now appears in doubt. Watch this space.
We spent maybe part of one Constitutional law class on the case or controversy provision of the Constitution. This usually came up in the cases dealing with advisory opinions. Here is the relevant part of the US Constitution
Article III, Section 2, Clause 1:
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State, between Citizens of different States,between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State, between Citizens of different States,between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Since trump is on both sides of this silly lawsuit, there is no Case or Controversy. This opinion made me smile. I suspect that future Con law classes will be spending more time on this provision of the US Constitution.
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Judge: Trump sought to 'manipulate the judicial process' with his IRS lawsuit and attempted $1.8B fund [View all]
LetMyPeopleVote
23 hrs ago
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Federal judge in Florida has released a scathing takedown of Trump's slush fund,
LetMyPeopleVote
23 hrs ago
#1
Judge blasts Trump's IRS lawsuit as filed for 'improper purpose,' recommends attorney discipline
LetMyPeopleVote
23 hrs ago
#2
Williams makes clear in a footnote that she lacks the power to prevent DOJ and Trump from entering into a private deal.
mahatmakanejeeves
22 hrs ago
#4
The Judge referred Blanche, another DOJ asshole attorney and a private attorney to the various bar associations
LetMyPeopleVote
22 hrs ago
#5
MaddowBlog-Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for $10 billion
LetMyPeopleVote
22 hrs ago
#7
Well...duh! Nice to have a judge who is sane and knowledgeable about the law.
Martin68
22 hrs ago
#8
MaddowBlog-Judge slams Trump-IRS 'settlement,' refers attorney for possible disciplinary actions
LetMyPeopleVote
18 hrs ago
#20
I've heard segments of the ruling read on MSNOW. A brilliant and eloquent ruling!
yellow dahlia
13 hrs ago
#25