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SpankMe

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22. Bugging is only a small part of it
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:47 AM
Jul 9

(And Panetta misspoke a bit about the plane being built in "another country". It was built by Boeing in the US. The interiors, however, were installed in another country. Minor point. But, still.)

Aircraft procured for presidential use are monitored throughout the entire manufacturing process, or are thoroughly inspected to the point of nearly being disassembled before they're certified for use by POTUS. Most of the lifetime of the Qatari 747 so far has been spent outside of this monitoring window. So, nothing can be trusted. Most of a presidential aircraft is essentially a SCIF for open discussion of sensitive topics.

Behind the panels and under the floors are wiring bundles so numerous and complex, anything could be hidden in there - bugging devices, cutters, poisons, acids, communications, anything. It would be impossible to properly inspect all of it without removing it all and going through it strand by strand. Did they do that?

Every electronic box in the plane - from avionics to the panels that operate ovens - could have circuitry in them, right down to the circuit board - or even chip - level, that could be used to monitor, commandeer or disable that device or the whole aircraft. There are hundreds of boxes in the plane. Did they remove every one and test them?

There could be secret fuel cut-off valves installed in the engines that could be remotely actuated.

Did they inspect every cubic inch of the fuel tanks? Could be explosives in there. Or capsules of corrosive agents that could release over time and eat the fuel tank walls or contaminate the fuel at random times causing engines to malfuntion over the Atlantic.

Tracking devices can be as small as a sugar cube. Have they inspected every interior volume - the wings, the vertical stabilizer, the engine nacelles - for the presence of questionable or unknown devices? This is a true needle in a haystack.

Has the plane been swept for radioactive materials? Pellets of - or even dust treated with - polonium could be placed anywhere to gradually drag down the health of anyone on the plane.

The Qatari AF1 is a literal Trojan Horse. The military was stupid for even considering letting US leaders fly on the plane. I'm surprised they could find legit military pilots willing to fly it.

I Know What He Means modrepub Jul 9 #1
INDEED Skittles Jul 9 #2
Selling state secrets is donnie's grift. rubbersole Jul 9 #4
not only that Skittles Jul 9 #5
I was thinking good luck finding anyone with intelligence in Mango Mussolini's circle -- JT45242 Jul 9 #21
They don't need this plane to gather intelligence.... AZ8theist Jul 9 #3
his bootlicking staff would be easy marks too Skittles Jul 9 #6
I imagined that the gifted jet had "homing beacons" that drones or missiles could follow. Or... QueerDuck Jul 9 #7
I can almost guarantee the "uncontrolled nosedive" thing would have never been installed jmowreader Jul 9 #38
Uh huh. OldBaldy1701E Jul 9 #8
Of course they'll find no intelligence in Trump, so there's that Orrex Jul 9 #9
My guess is that it lacks the medical suite of a full fledged AF1. Hugin Jul 9 #10
I expect it can't refuel while in flight either BumRushDaShow Jul 9 #16
Heard on MSNOW last night that the new plane doesn't have refueling capabiluty Deminpenn Jul 10 #45
Oh good point! yardwork Jul 10 #53
Anyone believe Trump's story? Anyone? Didn't think so. twodogsbarking Jul 9 #11
He can't even lie worth a fuck. mobeau69 Jul 9 #28
I want receipts purr-rat beauty Jul 9 #12
I'm torn between calling it... Hugin Jul 9 #13
That was always the issue. returnee Jul 9 #14
Great timing. jeffreyi Jul 9 #15
Is It Because The Medical Facilities Are Better On The Old One? DrFunkenstein Jul 9 #17
That was my first thought...he was gasping for air the other day..he is not a well man Peacetrain Jul 9 #30
They've had plenty of time to do a thorough sweep for things like homing beacons... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 9 #18
Light. nt moniss Jul 9 #25
How many 'gift' boxes of documents did he leave in the shitter? Talitha Jul 9 #19
"going to be efforts to try to gather intelligence." chouchou Jul 9 #20
Bugging is only a small part of it SpankMe Jul 9 #22
Thank you very much for your detailed and insightful analysis. 🇺🇸 QueerDuck Jul 9 #26
find legit military pilots? Nothing but the best! usonian Jul 9 #29
i see what u did there !!!! AllaN01Bear Jul 9 #34
Maybe they flew a Chump "double" on the way over there, just to see if anything would go wrong? FakeNoose Jul 9 #31
surely close to a billion NJCher Jul 9 #35
Great post. Sounds like another Trump rush job like the Reflecting Pool underpants Jul 9 #36
But none of that answers the simple questions: Bluetus Jul 9 #43
Just to add, when the Presidential aircraft need repairs, they always have brand new Deminpenn Jul 10 #46
This is why he shouldn't be allowed to build his 'ballroom'. travelingthrulife Jul 9 #23
Maybe the CIA or SS moniss Jul 9 #24
In double speak that plane is a big fat target 🎯 Historic NY Jul 9 #27
MS NOW-Officials say Trump switched out new Air Force One over security concerns LetMyPeopleVote Jul 9 #32
The less that Trump "commands and controls" the better. Bluetus Jul 9 #44
my alarm bells kept goingg off on this one with tthe possibillity of listening devices emplanted AllaN01Bear Jul 9 #33
It's fortunate that Trump has very little intelliigence Progressive dog Jul 9 #37
Trump is at the core a bully and a coward slightlv Jul 9 #39
Panetta's explaination makes no sense. Bluetus Jul 9 #40
"Why would they be concerned about bugs while in Turkey, but not elsewhere? " BumRushDaShow Jul 9 #41
I agree with you. It is not about bugs. Panetta is full of crap Bluetus Jul 9 #42
"OK, why wasn't it the same danger FLYING IN THERE? " BumRushDaShow Jul 10 #47
THen Panette should just keep his mouth shut Bluetus Jul 10 #48
Panetta is excessively qualified to comment and knows what to and what not to say BumRushDaShow Jul 10 #49
Then why did he spew such shit? I point out that today the NYT is reporting EXACTLY what I told you yesterday Bluetus Jul 10 #50
"I said every one of these things yesterday, 12 hours before NYT reported it" BumRushDaShow Jul 10 #51
The quote you provided was about bugs and nothing else Bluetus Jul 10 #52
No one outside of the actual employees who work the security details BumRushDaShow Saturday #54
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