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In reply to the discussion: Trump commission condemns idea of church, state separation in hearing [View all]BumRushDaShow
(170,614 posts)7. "Trouble" like what happened around the country in the 1800s with the "Know Nothings"
This stuff goes ALL the way back. Biden managed to be the first Catholic President to SURVIVE office. That was a deep concern when he ran and won.
It goes back to the 1840s with a large immigrant wave of Irish Catholics here -
The Philadelphia Bible Riots

Mobs dont think, as the adage goes, but they have often substituted for thinking by playing a leading role in fomenting political disagreements and deciding political questions.
Mobs fill vacuums. They arise and pose a threat in multiple circumstances: when government is weak or ineffective; where government actively participates in actions that a large proportion of the population perceives to be unjust; and when mobs and governments join forces to assault an out-of-favor group. American history is replete with examples of each.
In May and July 1844, the streets of Philadelphia were witness to combinations of these circumstances to deadly effect. In The Fires of Philadelphia: Citizen-Soldiers, Nativists, and the 1844 Riots Over the Soul of a Nation, George Mason University history professor Zachary M. Schrag offers a meticulously detailed blow-by-blow account of how a dispute ostensibly over Bibles in public schools inspired deadly rage.
Although the tinder that sparked the so-called Bible Riots wasas is so often the casealleged concern about the children, the debate regarding which Bible kids should read in school was actually a proxy for a more insidious divide in which nativists strove to deprive new Catholic immigrants of the full rights of citizenship.
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Mobs dont think, as the adage goes, but they have often substituted for thinking by playing a leading role in fomenting political disagreements and deciding political questions.
Mobs fill vacuums. They arise and pose a threat in multiple circumstances: when government is weak or ineffective; where government actively participates in actions that a large proportion of the population perceives to be unjust; and when mobs and governments join forces to assault an out-of-favor group. American history is replete with examples of each.
In May and July 1844, the streets of Philadelphia were witness to combinations of these circumstances to deadly effect. In The Fires of Philadelphia: Citizen-Soldiers, Nativists, and the 1844 Riots Over the Soul of a Nation, George Mason University history professor Zachary M. Schrag offers a meticulously detailed blow-by-blow account of how a dispute ostensibly over Bibles in public schools inspired deadly rage.
Although the tinder that sparked the so-called Bible Riots wasas is so often the casealleged concern about the children, the debate regarding which Bible kids should read in school was actually a proxy for a more insidious divide in which nativists strove to deprive new Catholic immigrants of the full rights of citizenship.
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Trump commission condemns idea of church, state separation in hearing [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Tuesday
OP
"Trying to reproduce and retrofit what your ancestors fled, and vomit it forth in THIS country, will lead to trouble."
OldBaldy1701E
Tuesday
#5
"Trouble" like what happened around the country in the 1800s with the "Know Nothings"
BumRushDaShow
Tuesday
#7
Texas, where religious liberty means voucher money for private Christian schools but not Islamic schools
ChicagoTeamster
Tuesday
#21