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37. So your answer is to provide more targets. Numbers and brute force can not negate the defensive

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:27 PM

Mar 12

advantage of modern technologies. This is especially true when dealing with a situation in the extremely confined area of the Straits.

As near as I can tell, there are fewer than 40 (maybe as few as 30) destroyers available at this moment capable of taking to sea. Four are with each carrier battle group. That is 16 ships unavailable for escort duty. That leaves 14 to 24 others. The navy would certainly not send all of them to one place.

IMHO The idea that we can pull off some sort of "gutsy" escort service without suffering grievous losses is just magical thinking. If events prove my analysis incorrect, right here on DU, I will man up and admit that EX500rider was right and I was wrong. I truly hope that Trump doesn't put this to the test by sending our sailors in harms way.

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Energy Secretary Wright says U.S. 'not ready' to escort tankers through Strait of Hormuz yet [View all] BumRushDaShow Mar 12 OP

Gosh, it's like you can't believe anything Trump says. tanyev Mar 12 #1

The Navy has 76 operational Destroyers EX500rider Mar 12 #2

Enough unless the Iranians launch a mass drone swarm and the ship runs out of ammunition before the flashman13 Mar 12 #12

Wait another week or two other countries wil be stepping into escort their own tankers EX500rider Mar 12 #14

No they won't. The military situation is the same for everyone. Iran owns the Straits of Hormuz. flashman13 Mar 12 #20

" No they won't." Pakistan already announced they are EX500rider Mar 12 #22

There are two possibilities here. They have already cut a deal with Iran or their ships will be sunk. flashman13 Mar 12 #31

Or Iran will add one more country they are at war with EX500rider Mar 12 #32

"The reality is that none of those 76 destroyers are available." They can be. EX500rider Mar 12 #24

So your answer is to provide more targets. Numbers and brute force can not negate the defensive flashman13 Mar 12 #37

They can also create distance at the narrowst place the straight is 21 Mi wide but the channel runs down the middle EX500rider Mar 12 #38

DE- ruet Mar 12 #43

Yeah I don't need your permission or approval to post on subjects EX500rider Mar 12 #45

Nonsense henbuck Mar 12 #34

Why does the DoE have anything to do with escorting tankers? Hugin Mar 12 #3

Wouldn't be the 1st time EX500rider Mar 12 #23

This was posted earlier by someone else but it's an amazing watch, 32 minutes long wolfie001 Mar 12 #4

I wonder quakerboy Mar 12 #10

Thanks for this. We moonscape Mar 12 #17

You're welcome wolfie001 Mar 12 #21

I looked at the video moonscape Mar 12 #46

Well thanks for that wolfie001 Mar 13 #48

No, the naval vessels rely on their own Aegis Combat System radar. EX500rider Mar 12 #25

Well, the lack of shipping right now is an indication of a breakdown somewhere in the defense chain wolfie001 Mar 12 #27

The US destroyer and mine sweeper vessels will take some time to get there from all around the globe EX500rider Mar 12 #28

Do these numbnuts even know what mines are and how they work? Girard442 Mar 12 #5

They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. JohnnyRingo Mar 12 #6

More like 3-dimensional tiddly winks... ananda Mar 12 #9

LOL! Haven't heard Tiddly Winks in a long time. JohnnyRingo Mar 12 #13

LOL ananda Mar 12 #40

They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. (illustrated) usonian Mar 12 #26

Stooges JohnnyRingo Mar 12 #33

When Donald is long gone, buried beneath the 18th hole somewhere, the Stooges will claim the spoils as rulers. usonian Mar 12 #35

You would need a 250,000 troop invasion of the Iranian side of the Strait Prairie Gates Mar 12 #7

This is why the W admin dropped any talk of taking on Iran Strelnikov_ Mar 12 #8

It's not that they're busy as much as they haven't quite figured out how much to charge per transit... EarthFirst Mar 12 #11

Naval escorts are not the issue AverageOldGuy Mar 12 #15

Exactly. And Trump is saying taxpayers will provide reinsurance to Bluetus Mar 12 #36

Tankers bromeando Mar 12 #16

A public announcement that Trump lied. Again. Martin68 Mar 12 #18

I suspect our Navy vessels woulld be sitting ducks in the Strait. Martin68 Mar 12 #19

Iran is a much larger country with more drones than Ukraine bucolic_frolic Mar 12 #30

Not exactly sitting ducks Red Mountain Mar 12 #39

I call them sitting ducks because the is very little room for mobility and they are close to land on both sides. Martin68 Mar 12 #44

If you destroy "the manufacturing industry that supplies their offensive capabilities" bucolic_frolic Mar 12 #29

But Bessent said it is!!!!! Grins Mar 12 #41

Encouraging vessels to just go for it is insane. But that's where we are under Orange Julius. n/t Evolve Dammit Mar 12 #42

Probably in two weeks. BWdem4life Mar 13 #47