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cmmngrnd

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6. We had to take "Americansim vs Communism" in FL during the 70's
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 10:24 PM
Mar 11

It was a BS course and taught like a BS course by coaches and other staff that had to have a class to teach. The text was old and had pictures of shiny new American factories and cars (this was before Japan kicked our butts) and grainy photos of scarf-wearing babushkas working in fields next to WW2 era tractors. It was classic Cold War propaganda. The fact that we were destroying the environment, or plundering third world resources abroad, or lynching black folk at home somehow never came up.

If you want to see what the course outcomes are supposed to be, go to the Florida Board of Education standards page, select Social Studies, then Grade 912, then History of Communism. The topics range from anodyne to clearly propaganda worthy of the cold war era.

The bottom line is this is yet another case of republicans solving problems that don't exist. They really don't know how to govern, because they don't want to govern. They want to rule. To govern you need to solve real problems. To rule you need to create boogeyman problems to justify the extra-constitutional powers you claim to need to protect the people from the boogeyman. The boogeyman in this case is "the resurgence of communist ideologies across the United States and throughout the world." Seriously! That's news to me, and probably to you, but you can read it here. And in solving this particular boogeyman, they get to re-tell the mythical story of a mythical American past where everything was wonderful.

Preaching to the choir: Don't take my criticism of America and the propaganda wrong. America has always had the best ideals, and I cherish those ideals. But we all know we've never lived up to those ideals, and certainly didn't during some mythic past. My criticisms in this post are for the America that is, with the hope that we can someday move to the America that could be.

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the evils of CAPITALISM and AUTHORITARIANISM would be more relevant to them Skittles Mar 11 #1
I have complete confidence that the kids will ignore all the crap they spew. mwb970 Mar 11 #2
The Heritage Foundation is communist Puppyjive Mar 11 #3
You're joking, right? You think a neo-fascist org like the Heritage Foundation is communist? Seriously? ancianita Mar 11 #5
To be fair, though, Florida also requires that students pass a Florida Civic Literacy Exam (FCLE), which covers ancianita Mar 11 #4
Enslaved people were counted as three-fifths of a person. Frasier Balzov Mar 11 #7
I hear you, though the real problem at the time was to get the U.S. Constitution ratified by a majority of states. ancianita Mar 11 #8
Too many compromises Mysterian Mar 12 #20
Easy to say in 20-20 hindsight. ancianita Mar 12 #23
Electoral college and non-democratic allotment of senators Mysterian Mar 12 #24
All that, too, yes. I hear you on the rest. ancianita Mar 12 #25
Amending the Constitution is about "taking the time"? dpibel Mar 12 #26
You answered your own question. Yes, it takes time to ratify an amendment. ancianita Mar 12 #30
Apparently you have missed the point. dpibel Mar 12 #32
Sure, some amendments got ratified quickly. ancianita Mar 12 #33
LOL dpibel Mar 12 #34
FL public school grad -- 3/5 compromise not skipped over cmmngrnd Mar 11 #10
I admit my surprise and my error! Frasier Balzov Mar 11 #12
We had to take "Americansim vs Communism" in FL during the 70's cmmngrnd Mar 11 #6
What a weird course title. It would be more accurately labeled Capitalism vs Communism, both being economic ideologies. ancianita Mar 11 #9
Only those looking for conflict would take your post as such. OldBaldy1701E Mar 12 #18
1967 Orlando grad here The Blue Flower Mar 12 #27
It might be useful if they teach it along with other systems like socialism, democracy, totalitarianism, and anarchy FakeNoose Mar 11 #11
Hopefully it will be as sucessful as Abstince focused sex ed IbogaProject Mar 11 #13
The syllabus definitely should include.... reACTIONary Mar 11 #14
Textbook written by Joe McCarthy JohnnyRingo Mar 12 #15
Almost fifty years ago, I had to take "Comparative Political Systems" to graduate high school in FL. eppur_se_muova Mar 12 #16
It should be a comprehensive class on uncontrolled capitalism as well but it won't. cstanleytech Mar 12 #17
i would deliberately fail samnsara Mar 12 #19
makes me think of Religion class in my catholic high school rurallib Mar 12 #21
I wonder if it's the same class I had to take in FL in 1970? lark Mar 12 #22
"Americanism???" Grins Mar 12 #31
This was during the Vietnam war, we were aware it was total bullshit. lark Mar 13 #37
and people vote for rethugs because they are upset about "indoctination" Takket Mar 12 #28
How about an anti-Fascist class; you could call it "Antifa!" Grins Mar 12 #29
I like that, good title by the way Ranting Randy Mar 12 #35
One trick ponies. retread Mar 13 #36
Many years ago I took an economics class in Poland, before they broke free Ranting Randy Mar 13 #38
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