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eppur_se_muova

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20. They insist on keeping their independence, and following their own customs and laws.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:33 PM
Mar 4

Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2026, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Rulers like Saddam and the late Ayatollah Khameini only want unquestioning followers. Kurds are trapped between Iraq, Iran, and Turkey -- all wanting to control them and make them into compliant subjects of their Great Leaders. They didn't get much better treatment when these regions were controlled by imperial Great Powers, like Russia, the Ottomans, or France or GB. They never wanted to be absorbed into another culture.

After the Iraq War, it looked like the Kurds might finally get some of what they wanted. But then Erdogan turned hard-line Muslim Nationalist and refused to cooperate. When the Kurds were the most effective fighting force in the Middle East against the terrorist pseudo-state ISIS , Trmp pulled US aid out from under them, which cost the Kurds enormous numbers of casualties, many of them tortured to death.

Too bad they don't live next door to Canada.


ETA: One big difference between Kurds and their Muslim neighbors is their more liberal attitudes towards the roles of women. Kurdish fighting forces have large numbers of women soldiers, including commanding officers. Outside of Iran, Kurdish women do not normally cover their faces or even hair, and their traditional costume is less restrictive even for Muslim Kurds.

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I think ICE should join the fight. Irish_Dem Mar 4 #1
That man's trying to break the entire world. tanyev Mar 4 #2
The Kurds were abandoned in the past Aviation Pro Mar 4 #3
Just my first thought... slightlv Mar 4 #17
What about the Iraqi Government? GCG Mar 5 #27
Don't we always end up... skypilot Mar 4 #4
A lot of countries do. "The Kurds have no friends but the mountains." nt eppur_se_muova Mar 4 #15
But why though? Polybius Mar 4 #19
They insist on keeping their independence, and following their own customs and laws. eppur_se_muova Mar 4 #20
They would be fools. N/t S/V Loner Mar 4 #5
Trump is totally winging it C_U_L8R Mar 4 #6
Exactly modrepub Mar 5 #24
shithole gave the ok for Erodgan to commit genocide against the Kurds in Syria................ Lovie777 Mar 4 #7
Hope they have sense enough to respond "Dude, you fucked us over thoroughly last time .... so, NO." nt eppur_se_muova Mar 4 #8
Netanyatu's puppet wants to start an ethnic civil war to weaken and fracture Iran dalton99a Mar 4 #9
They won't do it unless we promise them their own state. The Turks wouldn't like that. everyonematters Mar 4 #10
Send Barron! nt City Lights Mar 4 #11
dears kurds, in case u havent notice trump will stab u in the back and abandon you msongs Mar 4 #12
My son has great respect for the Kurds PCB66 Mar 4 #13
.... again. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 4 #14
Trump previously abandoned our Kurdish allies in Syria. And, Turkey attacked the Iraqi Kurds. ChicagoTeamster Mar 4 #16
What could possibly go wrong orangecrush Mar 4 #18
The same Kurds he stabbed in the back his 1st term? Grins Mar 4 #21
And what do the Turks have to say about this? AverageOldGuy Mar 4 #22
Why should the Kurds believe a goddamned thing the U.S. says? LudwigPastorius Mar 5 #23
It's bullshit... 2naSalit Mar 5 #25
Like you, I'm hoping the Kurds can exploit this for whatever they can get out of it without risking any real ... eppur_se_muova Mar 5 #26
What would be funny GCG Mar 5 #28
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