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moniss

(8,893 posts)
22. You cannot guarantee that someone
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 11:18 AM
Feb 11

above the head of BLS reviewed and "made changes" to the report. I've seen that kind of maneuver in the past with environmental agencies. There is no ability to guarantee any level of integrity with respect to anything issued by this administration. To think there will be is an act of faith for which this administration has no basis for receiving.

It is not unusual for there to be people of integrity at lower levels in an organization who have been there a long time and then someone from outside the group gets power and wants things portrayed a certain way despite the facts. That is the point at which it comes down to whether you put your name to things that are issued or have the avenue or power to make public any statements of disagreement.

Often the employees are rigidly prevented from making statements outside of the organization. I am quite familiar with environmental cases where "action plans" for environmental problems that were issued by the responsible agency contained statements of "fact" that were not supported by the technical people working on the assessment/remediation plan. The agency head, a political appointee, issued the plan with stated "facts and conclusions" that were desired by the powers that be rather than what was supported by the science. Those unsupported "facts and conclusions" were used to justify particular remediation plans moving forward.

It happens at all levels sometimes and unfortunately the ability of people of integrity within the organization to raise the alarm is often limited, under threat of legal action, to simply resigning. You should take as an example the mass resignations at DOJ and note that, despite having a lot of knowledge about the things going wrong inside the department that brought them to the point of resignation, the people who resigned are not out in the public making detailed disclosures about the problems that led them to resign. The threat of legal actions against them does not end just by resigning their position.

So the bottom line is that reports come out under a signature, or not, and words of disclaimer may or may not be evident or allowed. In a normal environment trust and integrity are proven long term and reports are accepted on their face. This environment is not remotely normal and therefore that normal manner of acceptance is no longer prudent or warranted and everything must be questioned and examined as opposed to taken verbatim.

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I am getting a spoof warning for the bls link provided. Hugin Feb 11 #1
The copy/paste text version doesn't run it into the tag like the Xitter post BumRushDaShow Feb 11 #4
It's missing the "www"... Hugin Feb 11 #5
It's not normally required as a DNS would usually have different variations to refer back to BumRushDaShow Feb 11 #14
They are using a wildcard certificate for encryption instead of using a proper server name Tim S Feb 11 #7
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_02112026.htm Works... Hugin Feb 11 #11
I call bullshit n/t gilpo Feb 11 #2
Same Rebl2 Feb 11 #20
I bet it will be revised down, anemic as it is. nt SunSeeker Feb 11 #3
I can't trust BLS info with Trump and Vought in control. Are they being diddled? CousinIT Feb 11 #6
Exactly. Previous BLS Admin was fired for allowing unfavorable numbers to be published...... groundloop Feb 11 #8
BLS data continues to be legit. As 30+ year employee on the CES program I can vouch for that. Wiz Imp Feb 11 #15
Good to hear. Thank you. mahina Feb 11 #19
It's a sample based estimate. As such it is subject to several types of statistical error. Wiz Imp Feb 11 #24
Thank you. mahina Feb 11 #28
That's really hard to predict. But given Trump's complete lack of understanding Wiz Imp Feb 11 #30
You cannot guarantee that someone moniss Feb 11 #22
Yes I can. The acting Commissioner of BLS (Bill Wiatroski) would immediately Wiz Imp Feb 11 #23
You missed the point of my post entirely. nt moniss Feb 11 #26
🙄 Wiz Imp Feb 11 #29
The markets will roar upward until UpInArms Feb 11 #9
BLS is no longer reliable or truthful Miguelito Loveless Feb 11 #10
Completely wrong Wiz Imp Feb 11 #13
Bullshit. travelingthrulife Feb 11 #12
and like all the other jobs number, it will quietly be revised down in a month or two. nt Javaman Feb 11 #16
When Rebl2 Feb 11 #21
Oh the numbers had been released with the down revised number Javaman Feb 11 #37
Seize the ballots and recount, by someone who can, well, count. twodogsbarking Feb 11 #17
I Rebl2 Feb 11 #18
Previous 2 months were revised down by a combined 17,000 progree Feb 11 #25
And the jobs numbers for 2025 were revised to LESS THAN HALF of what was originally stated. SunSeeker Feb 11 #31
Yes, that is true, thank you. Here is the before-and-after progree Feb 12 #38
Can we trust numbers provided by Trump and his stooges? I don't think so. Norrrm Feb 11 #27
MaddowBlog-New report shows 2025 was even worse for U.S. job market than we thought LetMyPeopleVote Feb 11 #32
"Reducing trust in government in general is very bad for progressive causes and ultimately great for the populist right. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 11 #33
"Person who was fired here - you should still trust BLS data." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 11 #34
Reality: 800,000+ layoffs this year -- the worst YTD since 2020, per nonpartisan analysts. LetMyPeopleVote Feb 11 #35
I'd buy that for a dollar! Strelnikov_ Feb 11 #36
"The Employment Cost Index shows continued deceleration in compensation growth in Q4." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 12 #39
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