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35. That's the jist yes, but I also think he and Brunel were at least in some sense trafficking young women

Mon Feb 9, 2026, 01:17 AM

Feb 9

But they were not minors at the time. As I said, I think the characterization in the headline of not trafficking at all ... is probably inaccurate.

I don't want to get too into why I lean towards the belief I expressed (it would be unpopular if I laid it *all* out), but people who think I'm just talking out of my rear should read all of what Carolyn A testified to against Maxwell (and Epstein) in the former's 2022 federal trial. Carolyn was the one Maxwell was convicted of trafficking to Epstein, the one that got her the 20 years. She was the DoJ's star witness, basically.

If one goes and reads it all, they'll discover why, on the particular question of him sharing many minors with many of his friends, the evidence is a lot weaker than people have been led to believe. And that's probably why DoJ hasn't seemed to do all that much beyond prosecute Epstein and Maxwell themselves. Including Holder, Lynch and Garland.

If compelling evidence to the contrary comes out, I'll be quick to reassess. I'd love to not be an outlier with my friends on DU on this question.

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FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men, files show [View all] Omaha Steve Feb 8 OP

What load of bullshit UpInArms Feb 8 #1

Was this before or after Bill Barr destroyed the evidence? FakeNoose Feb 8 #2

Captives don't have to be told what's expected of them. underpants Feb 8 #3

Whitewashing at its finest. Ritabert Feb 8 #4

Seriously? ._. Feb 8 #5

It's J. Edgar Hoover's on steroids. quaint Feb 8 #19

My father's FBI... GiqueCee Feb 8 #33

So, I guess all those politicians in Europe who are resigning from their posts MLWR Feb 8 #6

Just one more example of the FBI's lack of credibility under Trump. patphil Feb 8 #7

It's now official that there ain't a cow in Texas. raccoon Feb 8 #8

The longhorns have up and vanished! electric_blue68 Feb 8 #30

That is what I've also concluded after carefully watching the whole story unfold AZJonnie Feb 8 #9

I have to ask... 2naSalit Feb 8 #11

Yes I have, and yes I have paid a considerable attention to details, though I may've missed something AZJonnie Feb 8 #23

Did you forget the sarcsm thingy? niyad Feb 8 #14

First thing i thought of after reading your post bluestarone Feb 8 #16

Yes, I suppose I'd be as terrible at it as 17 years worth of federal prosecutors across 5 POTUS terms (nt) AZJonnie Feb 8 #24

I think I understand what you're saying FakeNoose Feb 8 #32

That's the jist yes, but I also think he and Brunel were at least in some sense trafficking young women AZJonnie Feb 9 #35

And it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime usonian Feb 8 #10

I can't believe the AP would report that oldmanlynn Feb 8 #12

Bovine Excrement! Pas-de-Calais Feb 8 #13

Not Borowitz or The Onion catrose Feb 8 #15

The same FBI that found no evidence of sexual abuse by Bret Kavanaugh. SunSeeker Feb 8 #17

The FBI might very well have concluded this. malthaussen Feb 8 #18

Sounds more like they aren't incorruptible. mdbl Feb 8 #20

I won't quibble. n/t malthaussen Feb 8 #21

This is the type of BS we can expect from the newly revamped Fascist Bureau of Intimidation. nt yaesu Feb 8 #22

Let me guess. It was just a different kind of chapter of the Boy Scouts and they were working on a merit badge. Vinca Feb 8 #25

Wait, what? They're gonna push this bullshit? purr-rat beauty Feb 8 #26

We need the names of the FBI people who said this... Escape Feb 8 #27

Sure, Jan. Scrivener7 Feb 8 #28

Well that's good enough for me, nothing else to see here. Buddyzbuddy Feb 8 #29

This is their next tactic. Pretend they have no evidence. LiberalLovinLug Feb 8 #31

The Patel FBI? Mysterian Feb 8 #34

found no connection to criminal activity, said another internal memo in 2019. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 9 #36

"they found scant evidence the well-connected financier led a sex trafficking ring serving powerful men" LudwigPastorius Feb 9 #37

So why did Maxwell take the 5th? Nt RussBLib Feb 9 #38