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thesquanderer

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11. Tim Cook explains why they can't make iPhones here in this article...
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:21 AM
Apr 2025
https://www.inc.com/glenn-leibowitz/apple-ceo-tim-cook-this-is-number-1-reason-we-make-iphones-in-china-its-not-what-you-think.html

Quoting a speech he gave in China...

you find in China the intersection of craftsman kind of skill, and sophisticated robotics and the computer science world. That intersection, which is very rare to find anywhere, that kind of skill, is very important to our business...and the quantity of skill in one location and the type of skill it is.
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The products we do require really advanced tooling, and the precision that you have to have, the tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art. And the tooling skill is very deep here. In the U.S., you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and I’m not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields.
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The vocational expertise is very very deep here, and I give the education system a lot of credit for continuing to push on that even when others were de-emphasizing vocational. Now I think many countries in the world have woke up and said this is a key thing and we’ve got to correct that. China called that right from the beginning.


So basically, the U.S. doesn't have what it needs to produce iPhones in quantity, no matter HOW much you're willing to pay to make it. The people and the skill sets aren't here. Now, maybe if we accepted a lot more immigrants... , But also, from what I read elsewhere, even what we do have is scattered all over the country, whereas in China, as alluded to above ( "in one location" ). there are geographic areas where basically everything a company like Apple needs is located together. Huge numbers of people with the needed skills, and also, the related industries/factories nearby. I guess the kind of thing that comes with central planning.

Simply saying "we'll just pay more for labor, and then we can make it here" doesn't solve these problems.

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We could do it if Apple would just use the child labor and the ICE prisons so they don't have to pay real wages, LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #1
I'm beginning to think Trump will never win the Nobel Prize in Economics. sop Apr 2025 #2
Imagine though, he can "rebuild" the world economy BootinUp Apr 2025 #5
Ya think!🤔 Rebl2 Apr 2025 #18
This white house is tripping higher than the price of eggs IronLionZion Apr 2025 #3
LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #4
Darn should I put my screwdrivers back? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2025 #6
"Made in the USA" Phone ... Only $15,000 SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 2025 #7
there must b comparable products. mopinko Apr 2025 #9
Tim Cook explains why they can't make iPhones here in this article... thesquanderer Apr 2025 #11
Lunatick say millions of americans screwing in tiny little screws Historic NY Apr 2025 #8
He forgot to add at miimun wage in a red state Historic NY Apr 2025 #10
I've been in more than a few Chinese factories. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2025 #13
Maybe...till you see the nets to keep those workers from jumping out windows to die Bengus81 Apr 2025 #14
Chinese New Years is the great factory reset. The labor force moves to those factories that offer better working OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2025 #15
I worked in a factory here in the US when I was in High School Historic NY Apr 2025 #16
It's a non starter dweller Apr 2025 #12
Things we don't make much in the US. Shoes. Clothes. Phones, TVs, cars (just trucks and SUVs). geniuses. twodogsbarking Apr 2025 #17
yeah, cool story, bro. nt Javaman Apr 2025 #19
Chinese workers assembling iPhones make around $3/hr jgmiller Apr 2025 #20
I actually did the math, or my AI did and it comes in around $2K JCMach1 Apr 2025 #23
Sounds like what a decent engineering school would look at and say, "Hmmm..." at. Igel Apr 2025 #21
I went to my local AT&T store yesterday and bought the latest iPhone version tavernier Apr 2025 #22
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