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Escurumbele

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66. OK, I am going to try to explain my view of the two sides of the coin...We all want the flags at half staff,

Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:05 PM

Jan 16

but lets be real, doing so has two reasons, the one is for homage to President Carter who just passed away, and the other one, if we want to be honest about it, is the fact that a treasonous individual, a convict, is being sworn in as president of the USA. It has never been done, and I understand, sympathize with the feeling but, as the Governor of a state who has always been a target for bad intentions by republicans, Newsom doesn't want to throw gasoline in the fire, plus California would most probably be the only state doing in it.

So I ask all of you, if you were Governor of California, would you start a fight that will most probably not accomplish much but to piss some people, mostly the buffoon, and make some others feel good about it, or would you fight where you know it will make a difference?

We have all heard "Pick your fights", and to me, this is not one worth fighting, at the end of the day, there are better ways to honor President Carter, and better ways to fight the evil that is coming.

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California's Newsom will join GOP governors in raising flag for Trump inauguration [View all] Jose Garcia Jan 16 OP

Fuck that malaise Jan 16 #1

Well stated... TheCowsCameHome Jan 16 #21

The moment he removes his hand from the "47th President Donald J. Trump God Bless the USA Bible" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 16 #118

Exactly catrose Jan 16 #23

I so agree with that DENVERPOPS Jan 16 #63

OK, I am going to try to explain my view of the two sides of the coin...We all want the flags at half staff, Escurumbele Jan 16 #66

He would not be starting a fight malaise Jan 16 #67

You see? Those are the type of things that trump cares about, "the flags were flown 1/2 staff", his ego hurt Escurumbele Jan 16 #73

The amount of fights kacekwl Jan 16 #95

That is not going make Trump treat California any better. That just shows weakness. doc03 Jan 16 #110

There are BETTER ways to not piss off the activist base of the Democratic party--- Jack Valentino Jan 16 #120

First words that came to my mind! Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #81

Took the words right off the tips of my fingers, BobTheSubgenius Jan 16 #83

Post removed Post removed Jan 16 #2

This is an example of why only 30% of the electorate are registered as Democrats. everyonematters Jan 16 #9

I don't think prices are ever gonna come down. They never do. Walleye Jan 16 #25

And what homegirl Jan 16 #62

+1000 BannonsLiver Jan 16 #76

IMO the Ds that vote do care whether Newsom raises the flag or not. nt in2herbs Jan 16 #91

Bullshit, kacekwl Jan 16 #96

Drama Renew Deal Jan 16 #13

This is ridiculous. THIS is why dems don't win. Because hysterical people travelingthrulife Jan 16 #40

Pure BS NotHardly Jan 16 #47

funerals are not for the dead lapfog_1 Jan 16 #56

"Just like he was wrong to date Kimberly Guilfoyle" Abolishinist Jan 16 #114

TTL DENVERPOPS Jan 16 #60

So presumptuous homegirl Jan 16 #64

"Because hysterical people draw deep lines in the sand. Too much purity. " Escurumbele Jan 16 #70

Well said BannonsLiver Jan 16 #77

Are you kidding ? Do kacekwl Jan 16 #97

No. THIS is why Dems don't win. hamsterjill Jan 16 #119

Helping Californians by manipulating a narcissist is way more important than a stupid flag ritual thebigidea Jan 16 #84

I was lambasted here for saying Newsom would have to give Trump what he wants Irish_Dem Jan 16 #3

To get ANY fire aid, the Dems are going to give Felon47 no debt ceiling. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 16 #89

Trump will never sign anything unless he gets something first. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #90

If California does not kacekwl Jan 16 #117

The Trump ass kissing is reaching epic levels. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #4

You noticed that too? orangecrush Jan 16 #104

Stupid! nt lark Jan 16 #5

trump sees this as sign of weakness and will attack rampartd Jan 16 #10

Yep! Newsome is his target and he doesn't switch once he's settled in his hate. lark Jan 16 #11

So is NY. HUAJIAO Jan 16 #32

Chicago too! lark Jan 16 #35

You are giving too much credit to trump, he doesn't think anything, he is just happy flags were all up. Escurumbele Jan 16 #71

WTF Newsom?? Think this support will get Trump to stop calling you names? Bengus81 Jan 16 #6

I would get in trouble if I criticize a Democratic official HarryM Jan 16 #7

That's not how the rule works. Renew Deal Jan 16 #18

I Just Post All Of 'The Things Not Allowed' Over On Blue Sky MayReasonRule Jan 16 #33

this is all dependant HarryM Jan 16 #43

Yep 3auld6phart Jan 16 #59

Putting up Trump's vainglorious needs C_U_L8R Jan 16 #8

Really?? It's dishonoring Carter, I don't care if it's only for a few minutes or a few hours. Bengus81 Jan 16 #17

The fed flags will be dishonoring at Trump's command, regardless C_U_L8R Jan 16 #28

Exactly. The Governor is doing this for the people in the state who need help. thebigidea Jan 16 #85

WTF?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 16 #12

Is a small thing, so i only lose a little respect for the politician... ExciteBike66 Jan 16 #14

RepubliCONs DENVERPOPS Jan 16 #69

WTF?!? 2naSalit Jan 16 #15

My take on this is abit different,,,, KarenS Jan 16 #16

So Trump hasn't even taken office and we need to kiss his ASS for Disaster aid?? Bengus81 Jan 16 #19

No one is kissing his ass, its a fight not worth fighting, and Newsom is right.Its symbolic, the only result Escurumbele Jan 16 #75

No...he's 100% wrong. Honoring Carters life and death is worth more than kowtowing Bengus81 Jan 16 #107

So you violate norms and precedent malaise Jan 16 #26

I didn't say I liked it,,,, KarenS Jan 16 #31

If it means helping the families in Altadena, fuck yes. They are way more important than a stupid flag for one day thebigidea Jan 16 #86

Don't fly a flag that day..just don't. MiHale Jan 16 #20

Mine will be raised again when Trump TheCowsCameHome Jan 16 #22

Oh, hell no. Timeflyer Jan 16 #24

I guess he's not interested in the Democratic nomination for President anymore. This will be part of a campaign against Walleye Jan 16 #27

F**k this shit! Wuddles440 Jan 16 #29

They don't seem to learn or care about VBNMW Jan 16 #98

WTF roscoeroscoe Jan 16 #30

This is an example of why I do NOT want Newsom to be our Democratic nominee for president. From my perspective he plays JohnSJ Jan 16 #34

Really? Newsom has done a stellar job managing the fires. Gotta pick your fights ....this shouldn't be one of them. PortTack Jan 16 #54

My point had nothing to do with how he is handling the fires, but ingratiating himself JohnSJ Jan 16 #88

Sadly, it may be necessary given the historic amount of disaster aid LA is going to need. LauraInLA Jan 16 #92

Are you SERIOUS? Governors have to kiss Trumps abundant ASS to get disaster relief? Bengus81 Jan 16 #108

This whole thing seems so petty. On both sides GusBob Jan 16 #36

So....States like California are held hostage unless the ASS is kissed? Bengus81 Jan 16 #37

Good point re Carter and building houses for people in need delisen Jan 16 #41

Mine is coming down n/t defacto7 Jan 16 #38

Having the flag raised on the day a president is inaugurated speak easy Jan 16 #39

It's part of the US Flag Code angrychair Jan 16 #49

The US Flag Code should be amended, speak easy Jan 16 #58

There are a lot of things that needs reform. The Grand Illuminist Jan 16 #74

OMG! I am shocked to read this! City Lights Jan 16 #42

Interesting. Let's see how the orange goon reacts to this. twodogsbarking Jan 16 #44

For every hour that the flag is at full staff, there should be an extra day of half staff added. Oopsie Daisy Jan 16 #45

OFFS! sakabatou Jan 16 #46

This is why angrychair Jan 16 #48

traitor trump bromeando Jan 16 #50

I'm guessing Youngkin will too underpants Jan 16 #51

Appeasement will stop him in his tracks. usonian Jan 16 #52

These govenors have to pick their fights. Wildfire vs a flag raising come on...you're not in their shoes PortTack Jan 16 #53

Smart move... Mike Nelson Jan 16 #55

Yeah, because cratering to trump ALWAYS works out so well for Democrats. Paladin Jan 16 #57

More 3d chess bullshit VBNMW Jan 16 #99

Political gamesmanship are required during the upcoming TSF admin. eom Exp Jan 16 #61

Post removed Post removed Jan 16 #65

What? Just because he won't place the flags at half staff you won't vote for him, even if he may be Escurumbele Jan 16 #68

Somehow I think he'll press on. BannonsLiver Jan 16 #79

As much as I don't like this, it wouldn't be the reason I wouldn't vote for Newsom. ificandream Jan 16 #72

Why? greatauntoftriplets Jan 16 #78

Couldn't care less BannonsLiver Jan 16 #80

Capitulation from Newsome??? That's as bad as going out drinking wine during covid lock down. Bad looks Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #82

I must say that I'm disappointed. Nt Conjuay Jan 16 #115

The flag will be raised to full staff at the state Capitol building only SARose Jan 16 #87

Extortion Cirsium Jan 16 #93

Is the whole world the fucking onion ? kacekwl Jan 16 #94

Is anyone going to dare stand? sarisataka Jan 16 #100

JFC RandySF Jan 16 #101

So the orange bully is getting what he wants, again. Dave Bowman Jan 16 #102

Once you pay a blackmailer's ransom, they come back for more usonian Jan 16 #103

Yep...over and over and over again. Bengus81 Jan 16 #105

I am all for raising the flag to full staff orangecrush Jan 16 #106

"Nobody wants to see this, and no American can be happy about it," He is, for one time, correct. Ferrets are Cool Jan 16 #109

Depends on your perspective. OR YOUR AI TOOLS! usonian Jan 16 #111

Vindictive blueseas Jan 16 #112

Well, it's not as bad as calling for a Pardon for Trump or the Trials were politically motivated SunImp Jan 16 #113

To those that think this trivial and non-worthy FormerOstrich Jan 16 #116

Agree, I put it a little differently: Once you pay a blackmailer's ransom, they come back for more usonian Jan 17 #121

It's what Jimmy Carter (probably) would have done. prodigitalson Jan 18 #122