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Eko

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34. You named multiple things that would mean total victory.

Wed Jan 15, 2025, 08:19 PM

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speak easy (10,873 posts)
5. "So they can retreat and re-arm"
Reply to Archae (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 09:21 AM

What does 'total victory' in the war look like? Under what circumstances would Hamas be unable to retreat and rearm?

Your answer was

Hamas out of power and out of Gaza, militarily and politically.
Reply to speak easy (Reply #5)
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 09:39 AM

Complete demilitarization of Gaza monitored by international guarantors. PA, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people taking control. Any attempt to rearm harshly punishable by law.

I asked you why you left out the hostages and your answer was

Beastly Boy (11,505 posts)
31. No, in my words, return of hostages is woefully insufficient for "total victory".
Reply to Eko (Reply #29)
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 10:14 PM

And, being woefully insufficient, this item is thus not included in what constitutes "total victory".

So, if they kept the hostages but everything else happened that you wanted it would be a total victory for Israel?

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Hamas Accepts Draft Agreement For Gaza Ceasefire And Release Of Hostages, Officials Say [View all] Beastly Boy Tuesday OP

I hope so...... Lovie777 Tuesday #1

So they can retreat and re-arm... Archae Tuesday #2

"So they can retreat and re-arm" speak easy Tuesday #5

Hamas out of power and out of Gaza, militarily and politically. Beastly Boy Tuesday #7

" Hamas out of power and out of Gaza" speak easy Tuesday #8

Then it wouldn't look like "total victory", and the terrorists would still be running their extortion racket. Beastly Boy Tuesday #16

Equals a forever war / occupation, speak easy Tuesday #22

then it is definitely on Jihadis, and I would welcome any suggestion on how to deal with them. Beastly Boy Tuesday #23

Send in the Saudis / Arabs speak easy Tuesday #30

Your question was Beastly Boy Tuesday #32

except all the times that they do when their movements die out and people lose interest thebigidea Tuesday #28

But isn't this mostly a hostage/prisoner exchange? LeftInTX Tuesday #18

It's also about a partial IDF withdrawal, and it is a temorary cease fire to last 42 days. Beastly Boy Tuesday #21

If that is Israels goal Eko Tuesday #26

You forgot the hostages. Beastly Boy Tuesday #27

Didnt forget the hostages. Eko Tuesday #29

No, in my words, return of hostages is woefully insufficient for "total victory". Beastly Boy Tuesday #31

You named multiple things that would mean total victory. Eko Wednesday #34

I didn't say a word about Hamas keeping the hostages, did I? Why then do you presume that Beastly Boy Wednesday #35

Lol. Eko Wednesday #36

ok, this is just too ridiculous to keep responding to. Beastly Boy Wednesday #37

I mean, this just doesnt make any sense. Eko Yesterday #38

Hamas needs to give up power Dumpy Tuesday #10

Hamas to formally Surrender / Relinquish power? speak easy Tuesday #14

Bibi and the RW religio fashies propped up Hamas for ages in their attempt to play divide et impera games Celerity Tuesday #19

Does this mean Hamas can keep their power? Beastly Boy Tuesday #25

Completely agree DeepWinter Tuesday #9

Do you not want a ceasefire? maxsolomon Tuesday #13

This is what Hamas wants. Beastly Boy Tuesday #33

History repeats? Any chance the hostages are released ... LSparkle Tuesday #3

That would be perfect timing. But the Israeli Knesset has to ratify the treaty, and Beastly Boy Tuesday #4

Let's see how long before Hamas breaks it. They have a long history of doing this, then breaking the deal AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #6

No, the world blames Hamas when they retaliate for Israeli strikes that go unreported in the MSM or Jit423 Tuesday #11

So Oct 7th was a preemptive strike against Israel? A music festival? 1200 people and hostages. AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #15

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #24

A deal should still be struck. Recovering hostages is the main priority. maxsolomon Tuesday #12

Let's make one thing clear: this is not a deal, it's extortion. Beastly Boy Tuesday #17

It's a deal because Trump won. LeftInTX Tuesday #20