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114. MSNBC misread their audience, imho

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:16 AM

Nov 28

After Jan 6th, they went all in on the fearmongering (Democracy) model that FoxNews uses. Nicolle Wallace literally did the same show daily for the last 4 years. All the other prime time shows did the same for the most part. Only O'Donnell stayed mostly out of that trap. Had they focused on what Biden was actually doing and had accomplished, Dems would've been better able to counter the FoxNews lies and propaganda with facts and unbiased data. If they'd have had more guests like the oil trader Hayes had on who explained how Biden had basically broken OPEC and stabilized the oil markets, MSNBC would've been much more interesting to watch,

On top of that, MSNBC kept telling viewers what they thought viewers wanted to hear. Dems, imo, are capable of critical thinking. Less preaching to the choir and more real, informed discussion of the issues was needed.

I haven't watched any MSNBC since the election because I know it will just be 4 more years of Trump-centric programming even though it will be criticizing Trump. I'm just not interested in watching that.

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JUST IN: MSNBC Loses Almost HALF Its Viewers in Stunning Post-Election Ratings Report [View all] BumRushDaShow Nov 27 OP

Having a hard time caring LearnedHand Nov 27 #1

We will care if Musk buys up MSNBC in a fire sale. nt pnwmom Nov 27 #5

Why? MSNBC like the msm has failed to listen to their viewers. They have lied and cajoled at the behest of their PortTack Nov 27 #20

We already saw CNN go down when it was taken over by a right-winger. We don't need to lose MSNBC pnwmom Nov 27 #27

It's already gone. That's why people are walking away. nt Gore1FL Nov 27 #30

More people like me aren't watching because we're depressed over the election. That doesn't mean pnwmom Nov 27 #36

The sane-washed Trump in the run-up. They are already going to be sold off. Gore1FL Nov 27 #38

That is a defeatist attitude I refuse to take. nt pnwmom Nov 27 #42

They called out sane-washing Trump. mzmolly Nov 27 #44

This is a terrible take. Self Esteem Nov 27 #76

Someone is going to buy it. I don't know who. I don't know what there programming will be. Gore1FL Nov 27 #90

This is an even worse take. Self Esteem Nov 28 #97

not anymore lapfog_1 Nov 28 #103

I'd hate to see MSNBC go. calimary Nov 28 #133

Reality is what reality is. Gore1FL Nov 28 #105

Old folks watch legacy media Keepthesoulalive Nov 27 #61

AND they vote. Boomer women had the highest support for Kamala of all age groups. nt pnwmom Nov 28 #123

We vote but considering how they treated president Biden Keepthesoulalive Nov 28 #124

MSNBC didn't mistreat President Biden, and I think it's a terrible idea for us to cede ALL cable news to the MAGAs. nt pnwmom Nov 28 #125

Biden is too old Keepthesoulalive Nov 28 #126

The executives at NBC Quanto Magnus Nov 28 #121

Some of the comments here, make me think people didn't mzmolly Nov 27 #47

Until he and mika went to nightmare-a-lardo to kiss TRAITOR**'s ####. niyad Nov 27 #77

Yes. mzmolly Nov 27 #78

joe is? or the guests? Some of us will NEVER forget, or forgive, joe and mika niyad Nov 27 #86

Good grief. No they haven't. ificandream Nov 27 #88

What shows on MSNBC did you watch regularly and in full? radical noodle Nov 28 #134

If Musk wants to overpay for another failing media company to drive it out-of-business, I'm not standing in his way. nt Gore1FL Nov 27 #29

I hope someone does. mzmolly Nov 27 #45

WHY ? stonecutter357 Nov 27 #53

We don't have to watch Keepthesoulalive Nov 27 #60

I think MSNBC killed itself. People are turning Joinfortmill Nov 27 #62

Msnbc has been the closest media outlet presenting oldmanlynn Nov 28 #102

Not that many people look at television news. Keepthesoulalive Nov 28 #128

You shouldn't condemn a whole progressive network because the hosts on one show let you down. nt pnwmom Nov 29 #138

I am entitled to my opinion Keepthesoulalive Nov 29 #140

You have such high standards and yet pnwmom Nov 29 #141

I have always believed Musk Keepthesoulalive Nov 29 #142

Boomer women, who as a group still watch cable news, pnwmom Nov 29 #143

The number of boomer women who watch cable news other than fox is Keepthesoulalive Nov 29 #144

1.6% of voters was the difference in the popular vote. It is only your gut feeling, no actual evidence, pnwmom Nov 29 #145

You're dealing in hypotheticals Keepthesoulalive Nov 29 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Nov 29 #150

Andrea Mitchell employment..... magicarpet Nov 29 #151

Will we? quakerboy Nov 28 #107

Yes Keepthesoulalive Nov 28 #127

I think all cable shows are becoming a thing of the past. womanofthehills Nov 28 #130

I know I can't stand to look at any news right now, right or left. forgotmylogin Nov 27 #12

Get your news from DU LBN and online news outlets LearnedHand Nov 27 #13

LBN includes stories from MSNBC and even CNN. nt pnwmom Nov 27 #28

But we are not journalists, we find and bring journalists work here mahina Nov 27 #39

No we aren't, but we are the best crowdsourced news site I've ever seen LearnedHand Nov 27 #92

A tardigrade with a violin ! Nigrum Cattus Nov 27 #40

Wait BonnieJW Nov 28 #109

Democrats and progressives have just tuned out for a while. Lonestarblue Nov 27 #2

I agree. MSNBC should have been reporting on Biden's policies Raven123 Nov 27 #4

You're correct about presenting his policies included specific infrastructure projects La Coliniere Nov 27 #32

MSNBC did call out Project 2025 and defend Biden's policies. mzmolly Nov 27 #48

in the daytime, MSNBC is fox lite. especially Andrea Mitchell, in the evening, it's a completely different network, Meadowoak Nov 27 #80

I agree on Mitchell and Tur. mzmolly Nov 27 #84

I have to admit I have tuned out msnbc which I had watch most of riversedge Nov 27 #63

really don't want to hear about any of it NJCher Nov 27 #3

I still watch in the evening. Never watched Morning Joe. I also don't think the Democrats walkingman Nov 27 #6

The problem has always been about taking the high road The Grand Illuminist Nov 27 #10

We need a Soros, Bloomberg or some other Dem billionaire to step up and... brush Nov 27 #7

I'm sorry but its too depressing. maxsolomon Nov 27 #8

I tuned out because of Joe and Mika. I still watch Nicole and Lawrence and Rachel. Mika Raven Nov 27 #9

Joe and Mika sure showed their true colors didn't they? padah513 Nov 27 #71

Rachel's stats took a big hit. Behind the Aegis Nov 27 #11

We are there with you guys JustAnotherGen Nov 27 #69

I can't take the drug commercials anymore Puppyjive Nov 27 #14

Yeah, the skeevy Bluechew ads are too much. SunSeeker Nov 28 #99

As much as it is probably post-election disgust, if Joe & Mika shoulder more than their share of the blame... hlthe2b Nov 27 #15

Agree. Like Jonathan Capehart and Velshi too. Evolve Dammit Nov 27 #41

Good. They deserve to after how much they lied about the election. I hope they go out of business. beaglelover Nov 27 #16

Yes. Fox News absolutely DID lie about the election. Oh, you meant MSNBC? I think you should clarify. hlthe2b Nov 27 #17

Yes, many of the talking heads on MSNBC lied to us. beaglelover Nov 27 #18

How so? mzmolly Nov 27 #49

Crickets. ancianita Nov 27 #81

Clarity pls. Are you talking about MSNBC or FOX? brush Nov 27 #31

There's been a million of 'could have', 'would have', 'should have' posts. Dissecting the numbers, the whys and SWBTATTReg Nov 27 #19

I stopped watching for a while so I just put in on mute in the background while I work... to support them. chowder66 Nov 27 #21

I just can't watch any news right now Freddie Nov 27 #22

Let's go back to the Fairness Doctrine... Hope22 Nov 27 #23

If we just had a mandatory civics test for those in elected offices radical noodle Nov 29 #136

I stopped watching Ojerly Nov 27 #24

I quit watching and reading all news nowforever Nov 27 #25

1/2 hr 6pm local tinymontgomery Nov 27 #26

They normalized the lying fascist,they deserve it! N/T bob4460 Nov 27 #33

They called him a fascist. mzmolly Nov 27 #50

MSNBC isn't news, it's political entertainment. That became crystal clear to me. That's not what I need right now. jvill Nov 27 #34

MSNBC was our only voice. honeylady Nov 27 #35

It's not MSNBC it's the news Nigrum Cattus Nov 27 #37

I haven't watched network news in 15 years. Don't plan to start either. Initech Nov 28 #115

I haven't watched any news Mz Pip Nov 27 #43

Well...I'm not watching them. I feel utterly betrayed by our media. Just no. n/t PatrickforB Nov 27 #46

Fuck ABCNNBCBS with a barbed wire dildo Blue Owl Nov 27 #51

GOOD also not Stunning at ALL ! stonecutter357 Nov 27 #52

I'm not even listening to NPR still. Buttoneer Nov 27 #54

Sure. We should just switch to the other democratic channel. Which one is that? SupportSanity Nov 27 #55

Try Thom Hartman Born Free Nov 27 #66

Yes. I'm a fan of Thom Hartman. SupportSanity Nov 28 #116

Joe and Mika and andrea Bitchell have to go ! stonecutter357 Nov 27 #56

Am not watching DownriverDem Nov 27 #57

Many Americans watched PBS election night and afterwards for analysis. Plus, DemocracyNow! is a great vehicle. C0RI0LANUS Nov 27 #58

Maybe after the holidays. Maybe. kerouac2 Nov 27 #59

I'm kind of "Why watch? There's nothing I can do about it" Jarqui Nov 27 #64

Im beginning to think maybe Figarosmom Nov 27 #65

I'm starting bdamomma Nov 27 #93

We have to be smart and not so emotional Figarosmom Nov 27 #94

Yes bdamomma Nov 27 #95

re: MSNBC defenders, haters - Does anybody here tazcat Nov 27 #67

We need to support MSNBC kansasobama Nov 27 #68

Ali Velshi as well. I dvr his sat and sun shows. yorkster Nov 27 #82

Same! pazzyanne Nov 28 #112

I stopped watching ALL news - not just MSNBC. Talitha Nov 27 #70

Me too Starlight27 Nov 27 #72

Yes I agree, there's definitely a different 'feel' this time. Talitha Nov 27 #91

Thank you for the welcome! Starlight27 Nov 30 #152

If you do that FOX wins kansasobama Nov 28 #131

The word 'if' doesn't apply - I've already done it. Talitha Nov 29 #139

And that Fox propaganda will rot peoples psyches more. More lies are not good. bdamomma Nov 29 #147

Joe & Mika 3:16 - "But our friends at the country club said 'WAY TO GO!!!'" Montauk6 Nov 27 #73

I have stopped watching all corporate news and will not return. They are part of the problem.nt. yaesu Nov 27 #74

NBC should put it on the network. Linda ladeewolf Nov 27 #75

Meidas Touch Network with 4 million NT bee_peaceful Nov 27 #79

I think people just stopped watching because we were tired of hearing the bad news ... aggiesal Nov 27 #83

I wouldn't mind Eric Sevareid reruns. The McLaughlin Report turned me off decades ago. Tetrachloride Nov 27 #85

They lost me in 2016. 33taw Nov 27 #87

JOE AND MIKA ARE SELL OUTS YoshidaYui Nov 27 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Nov 28 #96

Wow, starting to get confused on who's wanting to burn it all down Cheezoholic Nov 28 #98

Kiss all what goodbye? The majority of Americans aren't watching cable; viewers have already dropped below 50%. chia Nov 28 #110

I don't have cable anymore radical noodle Nov 29 #137

Exactly! pazzyanne Nov 28 #113

And, this too will pass LilElf70 Nov 28 #100

I just think a lot of their audience is avoiding all news underpants Nov 28 #101

I stopped watching MSNBC months ago. ItsjustMe Nov 28 #104

Television created the orange monster. hunter Nov 28 #106

Is anyone really stunned about this development? GoodRaisin Nov 28 #108

I predict that in the suites of power moniss Nov 28 #111

MSNBC misread their audience, imho Deminpenn Nov 28 #114

Agreed. It got to the point where Rachel Maddow actually said to the widow of Alexei Navalny that if America votes Midwestern Democrat Nov 29 #149

Everybody Misses the Point Roy Rolling Nov 28 #117

I call bullshit on this headline & its tawdry statements. NotHardly Nov 28 #118

Sorry, You need a tv network to counter propaganda Fox , and a misleading CNN.. NowsTheTime Nov 28 #119

MSNBC from 4pm to 10pm Olliepalamaloo Nov 28 #120

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Nov 29 #148

Now I am interested in knowing viewership information for Free Speech TV. The Grand Illuminist Nov 28 #122

The only reason we stopped watching was because Silver Gaia Nov 28 #129

Now that Americans are realizing their media move like corn stalks in the political breeze Aussie105 Nov 28 #132

I think you're right about just turning off politics for a while radical noodle Nov 28 #135

If MSNBC wants to increase viewers and revenue LiberalFighter Nov 30 #153

Mitchell is supposedly leaving the anchor chair of her show BumRushDaShow Nov 30 #154