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Deminpenn

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63. The Fourth Turning is actually by at least one of "Generations" authors

Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:25 PM

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IIRC from "Generations" we are at the fourth turning, that is when we baby boomers were born, we were the newest and youngest generation. Now, with the silent and greatest generations rapidly dying out, baby boomers are the oldest generation. What has stuck with me over the years is that this configuration of cohorts where an "idealist" generation like us baby boomers is the oldest generation, is the best configuration for progressive accomplishments.

If you read the histories of the 1920s and 30s, you can see the similarities and parallels to the present.

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Generations by Strauss and Howe Deminpenn 21 hrs ago #46

I've been collecting these cyclical interpreters. Have a whole file of them. NJCher 20 hrs ago #49

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The Fourth Turning is actually by at least one of "Generations" authors Deminpenn 18 hrs ago #63

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