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angrychair

(12,650 posts)
75. Ok
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 03:12 PM
18 hrs ago

Glad you skipped past the point I was making to focus on that.

While I do hold my nose and vote for Democrats even if I have issues, I understand the mindset of people who do not.

If the choice is between two candidates that both happily support the status quo of insider trading and unlimited dark money and all the other things I listed (or a candidate that only pays lip service to those issues during election cycles but in their 15+ years has never actually done anything to change it) and said person doesn't want to vote for them, I get that too.

Cynicism is hard to overcome as it is but it's even harder to overcome if people don't see any significant difference (while you and I may think that's easy, if your main focus is getting money and graft out of politics but the only two candidates you have to vote for got 75% or more of their donations from PACs and corporations it's hard to make the argument they are fundamentally different).

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Kamala Harris won the election gab13by13 Yesterday #1
Um. NO, she did NOT ! stopdiggin Yesterday #11
Who discredited it? gab13by13 Yesterday #15
I am a suspicious type, Scubamatt 23 hrs ago #27
I wish that Bob Casey had called for an audit, gab13by13 22 hrs ago #36
Unfortunately, there is hard proof, but nothing was done. ms.pamela 19 hrs ago #70
I fault Garland for not being aggressive and quick enough wnylib 18 hrs ago #77
I fault him for being complicit n/t blue_jay 17 hrs ago #78
Word! yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #89
virtually EVERYONE that isn't/wasn't stopdiggin 23 hrs ago #28
Not true ITAL 23 hrs ago #31
Apples and oranges, that's not what I posted. gab13by13 22 hrs ago #37
If every state shifted right ITAL 22 hrs ago #43
There were surges for Trump later in the day on election day gab13by13 22 hrs ago #47
No there weren't ITAL 22 hrs ago #48
Obama won because Anonymous unhacked Ohio. ananda 19 hrs ago #73
Anomalies aren't proof Kaleva 19 hrs ago #74
If voting machines "accidentally"... Chemical Bill 15 hrs ago #85
True. And it has happened over and over again. BComplex 15 hrs ago #86
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #87
Thank you Lategame Yesterday #25
Did Al Gore lose or did the Supreme Court pick the president? gab13by13 22 hrs ago #39
Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee! progressoid 21 hrs ago #52
Two things can be true at the same time. nt TBF 21 hrs ago #56
Nader lost his home state of Connecticut DemocracyForever 20 hrs ago #63
Gore won. Has nothing to do with Tennessee MadameButterfly 19 hrs ago #71
No comparison between 2000 and 2024 DemocracyForever 21 hrs ago #61
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #91
... TBF 21 hrs ago #59
Congratulations on your 13th post questionseverything 18 hrs ago #76
Oh please! T💩p and Eloon fking BRAGGED about stealing the election. OMGWTF 22 hrs ago #45
Kamala did win. Trump said they messed with the "computers". Elon Musk said they BComplex Yesterday #18
Do you usually believe that Trump and Musk statements are truthful? MichMan 22 hrs ago #40
I do. n/t returnee 17 hrs ago #79
She did not. This is conspiracy theory BS and should not be allowed in this forum. beaglelover 22 hrs ago #41
Agre 100% SCantiGOP 22 hrs ago #46
That's not BS, and silencing people is what should not be "allowed" in this forum. BComplex 15 hrs ago #88
Silencing people doesn't help. BComplex 21 min ago #97
No she did not. Please stop posting this election denialism CT as you are Celerity 21 hrs ago #55
So you don't remember all the bomb threats? All the purging of voters? BComplex 21 hrs ago #57
The CT pushers I am referring to are focusing on some grand scheme (often invoking Musk or some other techno villian) Celerity 20 hrs ago #66
It scares me how many people believe our elections are secure. BComplex 15 hrs ago #84
I absolutely stand by calling specific parts of it CT. For example 'This Will Hold' is a crackpot WUM (wind up merchant) Celerity 15 hrs ago #90
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #93
Maybe Kamala did pursue a recount because her handlers and the strategists told her not to. yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #92
Republicans have won by cheating for decades. Chemical Bill 16 hrs ago #81
I don't think anyone here is going to sit out RandySF Yesterday #2
Yes. We need a candidate who can win in swing-states and R+5 states... QueerDuck Yesterday #5
So far today I've seen EYESORE 9001 Yesterday #3
It doesn't inspire progressive Democrats does it gab13by13 Yesterday #8
Thank you MIButterfly Yesterday #4
Democrats won't be staying home and SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #6
Gore won, Kerry won gab13by13 Yesterday #9
I wish I could say you're wrong PatSeg 23 hrs ago #32
I agree - and it boggles the mind that democrats TBF 21 hrs ago #58
Indeed RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #7
I understand your anger, but we have to find ways to bring in the independent voters FakeNoose Yesterday #10
When 'people decide to stay home' .. stopdiggin Yesterday #14
No ... it happened when some people decided they couldn't vote for a black woman FakeNoose Yesterday #16
Nope angrychair 23 hrs ago #35
Joy has lost her everloving mind. F*ck her nonsensical BS. She can sit her ass at home but me and EVERYONE I know The_REAL_Ecumenist Yesterday #12
At least Donna wrote a sort of mea culpa book about what went on. gab13by13 Yesterday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author state of stupid Yesterday #23
I lived in New York Icanthinkformyself Yesterday #13
Please explain the Joy Reid reference johnnyplankton Yesterday #19
Thank you. I have no clue what people are talking about. Joy Reid??? Amaryllis Yesterday #20
Here Pompoy Yesterday #26
here eShirl Yesterday #24
Here it is Cirsium 23 hrs ago #30
Thank you for posting PatSeg 23 hrs ago #33
How so? angrychair 22 hrs ago #42
Bellows and Jackson are progressive Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #50
I think she is just making a point angrychair 21 hrs ago #51
Her point is premature. The leading candidates are progressive. Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #53
The conundrum Cirsium 21 hrs ago #54
I'm not sure what you think I said PatSeg 20 hrs ago #68
If I misunderstood angrychair 20 hrs ago #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles 10 hrs ago #94
Anyone who doesn't think things can get worse can't think. nt eppur_se_muova Yesterday #21
Here, Here! Scubamatt Yesterday #22
It's worse than being a Republican... Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #29
I am glad the Joy Reid is no longer on MS NOW LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #34
Yet another post that attacks progressives angrychair 22 hrs ago #38
"Sit out the election to teach Democrats a lesson" MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #72
Ok angrychair 18 hrs ago #75
You are so wrong on just about everything Pompoy 10 hrs ago #96
What Joy Reid said was wrong, was defeatist, gab13by13 22 hrs ago #44
Terrible Advice dlk 21 hrs ago #49
Another woman Akakoji 21 hrs ago #60
What are you talking about? Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #62
Regrettably now that we live in this new maga/djt/fox reality. Snackshack 20 hrs ago #64
WTF is wrong with her?? She's DEAD to me. She's another Sarandon. Another Nina Turner... QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #65
Dems hurt my feelings, WAAAH WAAAH, I'm not playing anymore WAAAH ImNotGod 20 hrs ago #67
Agreed. I voted for Michael Dukakis, involved in ny case with... NNadir 16 hrs ago #80
Right? Staying home doesn't negate your VOTE. It only means you didn't cast a ballot. Beartracks 16 hrs ago #82
Perhaps last chance. Vote yea or nea. NT You want a democratic republic? warmfeet 15 hrs ago #83
People want change. It's pretty simple. We either make that KPN 10 hrs ago #95
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