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cab67

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6. my approval or disapproval would depend heavily on context.

Reply to orleans (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:16 PM

23 hrs ago

In this case, the program is closely linked to a character Gene Wilder made iconic. Wilder's family is OK with it. Not sure I'd watch, but I wouldn't be a loud voice of disapproval, either. The voice of a living actor - for example, the actor who played him in the newer Wonka movie (I've forgotten his name) - might have been preferable, but Wilder's voice would make sense in this context.

If they were using Gene Wilder's voice for a program that has nothing to do with his life and career, and if they were doing it regardless of what anyone in Wilder's personal circle thinks, that's another matter.

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This is grotesque. Netflix is using an AI clone of the late Gene Wilder's voice to host a new reality series. [View all] highplainsdem 23 hrs ago OP

Hopefully... 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #1

Was this done in cooperation with Gene Wilder's estate? cab67 23 hrs ago #2

From the OP TheProle 23 hrs ago #3

That wasn't generative AI, which didn't exist when that film was made. AI voice generators, like highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #7

They are not 'trained'... Ohio Joe 17 hrs ago #18

They are trained. That's the term used. highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #19

Words have meanings... And you are being lied to... Ohio Joe 12 hrs ago #22

so if the wilder estate is good with it then ... ? good for them, i guess orleans 23 hrs ago #4

Your opinion counts as far as whether it's ethical. IMO it's unethical. It harms all actors if AI replacement highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #5

well, if you want to talk about AI ethics then i agree with everything you said orleans 16 hrs ago #20

I hate seeing creatives in one field using AI that rips off creatives in another field, too. The excuses highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #21

my approval or disapproval would depend heavily on context. cab67 23 hrs ago #6

johnny depp played willy wonka in a remake back in 2005. i liked johnny depp but i remember hearing orleans 17 hrs ago #17

It's not a very good recreation of his voice. imo. spanone 20 hrs ago #8

I agree. highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #14

It isn't. chowder66 18 hrs ago #16

From Consequence: highplainsdem 20 hrs ago #9

It is grotesque. Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #10

It's important to resist it. To make it clear AI's pretense of creativity and humanity will never be acceptable. highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #15

From Vulture (New York magazine): highplainsdem 20 hrs ago #11

The Independent: Netflix faces backlash over AI-recreated Gene Wilder voice for new Willy Wonka competition series highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #12

And Lance Ulanoff, editor of TechRadar and an AI fan, says this misuse of AI "broke" him: highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #13