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misanthrope

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136. I agree and I've been in Alabama for 60-plus years

Reply to lonely bird (Reply #115)

Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:35 PM

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The kid glove treatment allowed the South to fester and rise up, infecting the rest of the nation.

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The Guardian nails it: White working class votes for white supremacists. Period. [View all] AverageOldGuy Yesterday OP

Kick dalton99a Yesterday #1

Thank you for posting this. It's the plain truth. n/t Mister Ed Yesterday #2

The American Civil War NEVER ENDED. NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #3

Had I been in power in 1865 lonely bird 10 hrs ago #115

I agree and I've been in Alabama for 60-plus years misanthrope 4 hrs ago #136

No it did not and it has been obvious misanthrope 4 hrs ago #135

Yup. Ocelot II Yesterday #4

White Working Class includes a lot of others now--given the devastating economy-- so... hlthe2b Yesterday #5

It's a long article, worth the read. yardwork Yesterday #44

I agree that it is about racism, but economics are also a factor. wnylib Yesterday #67

Democrats did lose 30% of the young, male, black vote. questionseverything Yesterday #70

In part because Democrats are now defending gay and trans people. Wednesdays Yesterday #84

Empathy is looked down on wolfie001 9 hrs ago #119

I venture to guess many/most DUers are "working class" and a lot are White. Are they all to be lumped in hlthe2b Yesterday #88

In a sense, "access to power over other racial groups" is still viewed by lower class whites as an economic advantage. sop Yesterday #6

+1 dalton99a Yesterday #11

Great OP malaise Yesterday #7

"I may get screwed over, but the Other, the 'They', they get screwed over even more." ck4829 Yesterday #8

I'm white working class. I am not MAGA! I am not racist! Please stop stereotyping. Doodley Yesterday #9

You're right. It would be more accurate to add the modifier "some" before "white working class." sop Yesterday #13

I live in a "working class" neighborhood in metro Detroit. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #22

+1 Auggie Yesterday #32

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Yesterday #45

Geez. Nobody is stereotyping. yardwork Yesterday #46

Not sure that "strong majority" of white working class still holds true. Not all white working class KPN Yesterday #65

I don't know a single Trump voter who says they regret their vote. yardwork Yesterday #77

I've never heard one say, "I think Trump is terrible, I regret voting for him, I think I'll vote 'D' next time." sop 9 hrs ago #116

We cannot discuss race without someone being offended Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #49

As a white person I just don't understand the defensiveness. yardwork Yesterday #60

Race is an uncomfortable subject Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #64

A lot of Americans cling to our mythology. yardwork Yesterday #73

It's classic bean souping... meadowlander 16 hrs ago #106

24% of black men voted for Trump. Why? It isn't as simple as black versus white. Yes, you need modifiers unless you Doodley 10 hrs ago #113

The problem with any discussion about race Keepthesoulalive 7 hrs ago #123

I'm not being defensive. I can talk about race all day, but stop stereotyping--that's what racism is. Doodley 5 hrs ago #125

You're being defensive now Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #127

Sorry if you don't like my opinion that you shouldn't stereotype and that stereotyping is what racism is. Doodley 5 hrs ago #128

Once more for the folks in the audience Keepthesoulalive 4 hrs ago #129

You are wrong in your assumptions about me. 11 people recommended my reply in which I objected to the stereotyping. Doodley 4 hrs ago #131

Okay Keepthesoulalive 4 hrs ago #132

Let's have a truce and accept maybe we misunderstood each other. I apologize if my tone was aggressive. Doodley 4 hrs ago #134

We're all good Keepthesoulalive 3 hrs ago #137

15% Dlpger61 4 hrs ago #130

It is actually 21 percent according to Pew. Doodley 4 hrs ago #133

Absolute agreement. Literalism can be a popular pablum allowing Torchlight 6 hrs ago #124

I'm white working-class male and I Dr. T Yesterday #51

Good for you Cirsium Yesterday #76

What are you talking about? Doodley 10 hrs ago #114

This Cirsium 1 hr ago #139

Spot on ABC123Easy Yesterday #10

Bill Clinton had a chance to change this when he was in the White House FakeNoose Yesterday #12

I can remember a picture of Clinton & Gore with a credit-card type card that would be your access card to Universal NBachers Yesterday #27

Yeah, Clinton's eight years of peace and prosperity comradebillyboy Yesterday #38

If not President Clinton MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #78

That's not what I implied, but thanks for sharing your thoughts FakeNoose Yesterday #87

The majority of white people have voted republican since LBJ Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #39

They started leaving way before Bill Clinion DFW Yesterday #40

LBJ knew he was going to lose the southern racists by signing the Civil Rights Act FakeNoose Yesterday #89

Read the essay linked in the OP. yardwork Yesterday #47

No. White working class left in post-civil rights era after the two parties diverged on race, cultural changes. betsuni Yesterday #55

Fox News and hate radio push a steady diet of anti-Black, anti-immigrant messaging. yardwork Yesterday #58

At the gym yesterday .. justsomeguy01 Yesterday #62

From the Right: "liberals hate white people," other direction: "Dem establishment ignores white working class betsuni Yesterday #66

...to his credit.. thomski64 9 hrs ago #117

Not true Cirsium Yesterday #75

I would hate to see anyone here take what the author said personally. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #109

How do you "install" universal healthcare? LisaM 22 hrs ago #103

Myth there are simple solutions for everything but corrupt establishment stops it. betsuni 16 hrs ago #107

Clinton wasn't the only thing happening when white working class started leaving MadameButterfly 11 hrs ago #112

While often true, it's not a universal, absolute truth Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #14

But will they continue to vote for the party of progress Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #68

The paradigm has shifted Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #86

I wish I could share your enthusiasm Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #91

The evidence indicates the billionaires are losing Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #98

They will control the House for a generation. mr715 Yesterday #94

I think it is important to note that West Virginia mr715 Yesterday #92

But why Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #93

White, working class voters. mr715 Yesterday #95

West Virginia is one of the most beautiful states Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #97

Republicans told people Democratic environmental regulations would take all their jobs. betsuni 15 hrs ago #108

"centrist, neoliberalism and triangulation, deregulation of energy" -- for example? Blame Democrats! betsuni 14 hrs ago #110

That's true. Janbdwl72 16 hrs ago #105

And Carter in 1980 mr715 5 hrs ago #126

Worth reading, and here's the money shot... TygrBright Yesterday #15

+1 leftstreet 7 hrs ago #122

When I hear him say make Americkkka great again it's really make racism great again! kimbutgar Yesterday #16

great read. mopinko Yesterday #17

I worked in Greenville MS back in 1989 when Boeing had a plant there KS Toronado Yesterday #18

There is in group discussion Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #59

Really wish more on DU would understand this reality. rogue emissary Yesterday #19

It's a shallow combination of ownership within class identity and fear of unknown competition haele Yesterday #50

Yes, artificial and unnecessary division based on falsehood that Democrats "ignore the working class." betsuni Yesterday #71

And these beliefs and preferences are very difficult to counter, even with the "right messaging" Redleg Yesterday #20

The story of the white sharecropper poisoning his black sharecropper neighbor's mule come to mind. Squaredeal Yesterday #21

Jeezus. Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill Yesterday #25

This message was self-deleted by its author MerryBlooms 23 hrs ago #102

Republicans understand this. SamuelAdams Yesterday #23

dumb, dumber, dumbest Joinfortmill Yesterday #24

I think they need somebody to look down on. zanana1 Yesterday #26

I wonder if there's not some of that going on with "us" TheProle Yesterday #57

Well, we look down on MAGA. zanana1 9 hrs ago #118

MAGA is simply shorthand for anyone who slavishly supports and follows Trump. sop 9 hrs ago #120

Sounds like the older part of my family....MAGATs all BeneteauBum Yesterday #28

This is a "duh" headline..white working class vote their hate for "the other"... agingdem Yesterday #29

Not really "duh" since we aren't used to seeing this from the media, at least in the U.S. Redleg Yesterday #30

The Guardian is British paper...our papers/MSM are so terrified of MAGA agingdem Yesterday #35

... Solly Mack Yesterday #31

Worked in an auto plant just West of Detroit. multigraincracker Yesterday #33

We need to go back to colorblind (if we still can) gulliver Yesterday #34

Yes, this is central to understanding the American project and why it has failed. nt Blasphemer Yesterday #36

"Mississippi Burning" duckworth969 Yesterday #37

A great movie- I doubt it would be made today, given the kow-towing to Trump Redleg Yesterday #43

It's because of racism we can't have the nice things that folks have in other rich countries. Fil1957 Yesterday #41

And yet...guys like Graham Platner, Zohran Mamdani, Abdul El Sayed biocube Yesterday #42

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #48

And what about brown men with "foreign-sounding names" like Mamdani and El Sayed? biocube Yesterday #54

American Arabs are white adjacent in the minds of many. yardwork Yesterday #56

That's just great. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #82

What rhetoric is Platner using that signals he is a racist? I find your attack on him to be problematic at best. He is Celerity Yesterday #90

What is the point? Cirsium Yesterday #79

And yet...Andrew Cuomo won white voters in NYC SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #121

Ive pushed back on this for decades Cosmocat Yesterday #52

yes, like Black people have known since forever yobrault1 Yesterday #53

While I agree to a point, but it's waaay more complicated than that. paleotn Yesterday #61

We enable that to happen, by ... Bluetus Yesterday #63

Noooooo! We Just Need To UNDERSTAND THEM! TALK With Them! Really.....! ColoringFool Yesterday #69

I live in Pennsylvania and I know plenty of people like that. Alice B. Yesterday #72

I grew up in rural Ohio and I hear it often from people I grew up with. yardwork Yesterday #74

People start framing things like, the "Obama Library" MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #83

Which is why we will never see a black Republican presidential nominee in our lifetimes. Wednesdays Yesterday #80

Saida Grundy nails it Cirsium Yesterday #81

The ruling class uses racism orthoclad Yesterday #85

All American racists love Trump and would never vote for anyone else. Martin68 Yesterday #96

Wish i could JustAnotherGen Yesterday #99

Some eyes are being opened here Keepthesoulalive 18 hrs ago #104

Yes, has The Guardian stamp of progressive approval, no shooting the messenger. All data says same thing. betsuni 14 hrs ago #111

We have made progress in the face of racist forces manipulated by corrupt wealth. We will again. pat_k 23 hrs ago #100

Keeping it sinple and visual. usonian 23 hrs ago #101

The same white working class that put Biden over the top in 2020? TheProle 3 hrs ago #138