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13. You're right. It would be more accurate to add the modifier "some" before "white working class."

Reply to Doodley (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 10:41 AM

18 hrs ago

Some might argue "most" would be more appropriate.

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The Guardian nails it: White working class votes for white supremacists. Period. [View all] AverageOldGuy 19 hrs ago OP

Kick dalton99a 19 hrs ago #1

Thank you for posting this. It's the plain truth. n/t Mister Ed 19 hrs ago #2

The American Civil War NEVER ENDED. NoMoreRepugs 19 hrs ago #3

Yup. Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #4

White Working Class includes a lot of others now--given the devastating economy-- so... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #5

It's a long article, worth the read. yardwork 17 hrs ago #44

I agree that it is about racism, but economics are also a factor. wnylib 15 hrs ago #67

Democrats did lose 30% of the young, male, black vote. questionseverything 15 hrs ago #70

In part because Democrats are now defending gay and trans people. Wednesdays 14 hrs ago #84

I venture to guess many/most DUers are "working class" and a lot are White. Are they all to be lumped in hlthe2b 14 hrs ago #88

In a sense, "access to power over other racial groups" is still viewed by lower class whites as an economic advantage. sop 19 hrs ago #6

+1 dalton99a 19 hrs ago #11

Great OP malaise 19 hrs ago #7

"I may get screwed over, but the Other, the 'They', they get screwed over even more." ck4829 19 hrs ago #8

I'm white working class. I am not MAGA! I am not racist! Please stop stereotyping. Doodley 19 hrs ago #9

You're right. It would be more accurate to add the modifier "some" before "white working class." sop 18 hrs ago #13

I live in a "working class" neighborhood in metro Detroit. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #22

+1 Auggie 18 hrs ago #32

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork 17 hrs ago #45

Geez. Nobody is stereotyping. yardwork 17 hrs ago #46

Not sure that "strong majority" of white working class still holds true. Not all white working class KPN 16 hrs ago #65

I don't know a single Trump voter who says they regret their vote. yardwork 15 hrs ago #77

We cannot discuss race without someone being offended Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #49

As a white person I just don't understand the defensiveness. yardwork 16 hrs ago #60

Race is an uncomfortable subject Keepthesoulalive 16 hrs ago #64

A lot of Americans cling to our mythology. yardwork 15 hrs ago #73

It's classic bean souping... meadowlander 3 hrs ago #106

I'm white working-class male and I Dr. T 17 hrs ago #51

Good for you Cirsium 15 hrs ago #76

Spot on ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #10

Bill Clinton had a chance to change this when he was in the White House FakeNoose 18 hrs ago #12

I can remember a picture of Clinton & Gore with a credit-card type card that would be your access card to Universal NBachers 18 hrs ago #27

Yeah, Clinton's eight years of peace and prosperity comradebillyboy 17 hrs ago #38

If not President Clinton MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #78

That's not what I implied, but thanks for sharing your thoughts FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #87

The majority of white people have voted republican since LBJ Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #39

They started leaving way before Bill Clinion DFW 17 hrs ago #40

LBJ knew he was going to lose the southern racists by signing the Civil Rights Act FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #89

Read the essay linked in the OP. yardwork 17 hrs ago #47

No. White working class left in post-civil rights era after the two parties diverged on race, cultural changes. betsuni 17 hrs ago #55

Fox News and hate radio push a steady diet of anti-Black, anti-immigrant messaging. yardwork 17 hrs ago #58

At the gym yesterday .. justsomeguy01 16 hrs ago #62

From the Right: "liberals hate white people," other direction: "Dem establishment ignores white working class betsuni 16 hrs ago #66

Not true Cirsium 15 hrs ago #75

I would hate to see anyone here take what the author said personally. ShazzieB 3 hrs ago #109

How do you "install" universal healthcare? LisaM 10 hrs ago #103

Myth there are simple solutions for everything but corrupt establishment stops it. betsuni 3 hrs ago #107

While often true, it's not a universal, absolute truth Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #14

But will they continue to vote for the party of progress Keepthesoulalive 15 hrs ago #68

The paradigm has shifted Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #86

I wish I could share your enthusiasm Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #91

The evidence indicates the billionaires are losing Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #98

They will control the House for a generation. mr715 13 hrs ago #94

I think it is important to note that West Virginia mr715 14 hrs ago #92

But why Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #93

White, working class voters. mr715 13 hrs ago #95

West Virginia is one of the most beautiful states Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #97

Republicans told people Democratic environmental regulations would take all their jobs. betsuni 3 hrs ago #108

"centrist, neoliberalism and triangulation, deregulation of energy" -- for example? Blame Democrats! betsuni 2 hrs ago #110

That's true. Janbdwl72 4 hrs ago #105

Worth reading, and here's the money shot... TygrBright 18 hrs ago #15

When I hear him say make Americkkka great again it's really make racism great again! kimbutgar 18 hrs ago #16

great read. mopinko 18 hrs ago #17

I worked in Greenville MS back in 1989 when Boeing had a plant there KS Toronado 18 hrs ago #18

There is in group discussion Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #59

Really wish more on DU would understand this reality. rogue emissary 18 hrs ago #19

It's a shallow combination of ownership within class identity and fear of unknown competition haele 17 hrs ago #50

Yes, artificial and unnecessary division based on falsehood that Democrats "ignore the working class." betsuni 15 hrs ago #71

And these beliefs and preferences are very difficult to counter, even with the "right messaging" Redleg 18 hrs ago #20

The story of the white sharecropper poisoning his black sharecropper neighbor's mule come to mind. Squaredeal 18 hrs ago #21

Jeezus. Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #25

Not all white sharecroppers were racist pieces of crap. MerryBlooms 10 hrs ago #102

Republicans understand this. SamuelAdams 18 hrs ago #23

dumb, dumber, dumbest Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #24

I think they need somebody to look down on. zanana1 18 hrs ago #26

I wonder if there's not some of that going on with "us" TheProle 17 hrs ago #57

Sounds like the older part of my family....MAGATs all BeneteauBum 18 hrs ago #28

This is a "duh" headline..white working class vote their hate for "the other"... agingdem 18 hrs ago #29

Not really "duh" since we aren't used to seeing this from the media, at least in the U.S. Redleg 18 hrs ago #30

The Guardian is British paper...our papers/MSM are so terrified of MAGA agingdem 17 hrs ago #35

... Solly Mack 18 hrs ago #31

Worked in an auto plant just West of Detroit. multigraincracker 17 hrs ago #33

We need to go back to colorblind (if we still can) gulliver 17 hrs ago #34

Yes, this is central to understanding the American project and why it has failed. nt Blasphemer 17 hrs ago #36

"Mississippi Burning" duckworth969 17 hrs ago #37

A great movie- I doubt it would be made today, given the kow-towing to Trump Redleg 17 hrs ago #43

It's because of racism we can't have the nice things that folks have in other rich countries. Fil1957 17 hrs ago #41

And yet...guys like Graham Platner, Zohran Mamdani, Abdul El Sayed biocube 17 hrs ago #42

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And what about brown men with "foreign-sounding names" like Mamdani and El Sayed? biocube 17 hrs ago #54

American Arabs are white adjacent in the minds of many. yardwork 17 hrs ago #56

That's just great. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #82

What rhetoric is Platner using that signals he is a racist? I find your attack on him to be problematic at best. He is Celerity 14 hrs ago #90

What is the point? Cirsium 15 hrs ago #79

Ive pushed back on this for decades Cosmocat 17 hrs ago #52

yes, like Black people have known since forever yobrault1 17 hrs ago #53

While I agree to a point, but it's waaay more complicated than that. paleotn 16 hrs ago #61

We enable that to happen, by ... Bluetus 16 hrs ago #63

Noooooo! We Just Need To UNDERSTAND THEM! TALK With Them! Really.....! ColoringFool 15 hrs ago #69

I live in Pennsylvania and I know plenty of people like that. Alice B. 15 hrs ago #72

I grew up in rural Ohio and I hear it often from people I grew up with. yardwork 15 hrs ago #74

People start framing things like, the "Obama Library" MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #83

Which is why we will never see a black Republican presidential nominee in our lifetimes. Wednesdays 15 hrs ago #80

Saida Grundy nails it Cirsium 14 hrs ago #81

The ruling class uses racism orthoclad 14 hrs ago #85

All American racists love Trump and would never vote for anyone else. Martin68 13 hrs ago #96

Wish i could JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #99

Some eyes are being opened here Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #104

Yes, has The Guardian stamp of progressive approval, no shooting the messenger. All data says same thing. betsuni 2 hrs ago #111

We have made progress in the face of racist forces manipulated by corrupt wealth. We will again. pat_k 11 hrs ago #100

Keeping it sinple and visual. usonian 11 hrs ago #101