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FakeNoose

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12. Bill Clinton had a chance to change this when he was in the White House
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 10:39 AM
18 hrs ago

The so-called "white working class" were just starting to abandon the Democratic Party back in the mid-90s. I believe Clinton could have stopped it if he had done a few things differently. He should have supported the labor unions when he had the chance. Increasing the minimum wage, installing universal healthcare, supporting public education and other pro-labor and pro-working-class initiatives would have gone a long way to retain those Dem voters.

Instead he killed welfare, gave in to the banks at every chance and he allowed CEOs to have special access because they were campaign donors. Clinton did things that we criticize Chump for now, but this was over 30 years ago!

Bill did good things too, but the white working class voters started leaving the Party on his watch.

Kick dalton99a 19 hrs ago #1
Thank you for posting this. It's the plain truth. n/t Mister Ed 19 hrs ago #2
The American Civil War NEVER ENDED. NoMoreRepugs 19 hrs ago #3
Yup. Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #4
White Working Class includes a lot of others now--given the devastating economy-- so... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #5
It's a long article, worth the read. yardwork 17 hrs ago #44
I agree that it is about racism, but economics are also a factor. wnylib 15 hrs ago #67
Democrats did lose 30% of the young, male, black vote. questionseverything 15 hrs ago #70
In part because Democrats are now defending gay and trans people. Wednesdays 14 hrs ago #84
I venture to guess many/most DUers are "working class" and a lot are White. Are they all to be lumped in hlthe2b 14 hrs ago #88
In a sense, "access to power over other racial groups" is still viewed by lower class whites as an economic advantage. sop 19 hrs ago #6
+1 dalton99a 19 hrs ago #11
Great OP malaise 19 hrs ago #7
"I may get screwed over, but the Other, the 'They', they get screwed over even more." ck4829 19 hrs ago #8
I'm white working class. I am not MAGA! I am not racist! Please stop stereotyping. Doodley 19 hrs ago #9
You're right. It would be more accurate to add the modifier "some" before "white working class." sop 18 hrs ago #13
I live in a "working class" neighborhood in metro Detroit. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #22
+1 Auggie 18 hrs ago #32
This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork 17 hrs ago #45
Geez. Nobody is stereotyping. yardwork 17 hrs ago #46
Not sure that "strong majority" of white working class still holds true. Not all white working class KPN 16 hrs ago #65
I don't know a single Trump voter who says they regret their vote. yardwork 15 hrs ago #77
We cannot discuss race without someone being offended Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #49
As a white person I just don't understand the defensiveness. yardwork 16 hrs ago #60
Race is an uncomfortable subject Keepthesoulalive 16 hrs ago #64
A lot of Americans cling to our mythology. yardwork 15 hrs ago #73
It's classic bean souping... meadowlander 3 hrs ago #106
I'm white working-class male and I Dr. T 17 hrs ago #51
Good for you Cirsium 15 hrs ago #76
Spot on ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #10
Bill Clinton had a chance to change this when he was in the White House FakeNoose 18 hrs ago #12
I can remember a picture of Clinton & Gore with a credit-card type card that would be your access card to Universal NBachers 18 hrs ago #27
Yeah, Clinton's eight years of peace and prosperity comradebillyboy 17 hrs ago #38
If not President Clinton MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #78
That's not what I implied, but thanks for sharing your thoughts FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #87
The majority of white people have voted republican since LBJ Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #39
They started leaving way before Bill Clinion DFW 17 hrs ago #40
LBJ knew he was going to lose the southern racists by signing the Civil Rights Act FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #89
Read the essay linked in the OP. yardwork 17 hrs ago #47
No. White working class left in post-civil rights era after the two parties diverged on race, cultural changes. betsuni 17 hrs ago #55
Fox News and hate radio push a steady diet of anti-Black, anti-immigrant messaging. yardwork 17 hrs ago #58
At the gym yesterday .. justsomeguy01 16 hrs ago #62
From the Right: "liberals hate white people," other direction: "Dem establishment ignores white working class betsuni 16 hrs ago #66
Not true Cirsium 15 hrs ago #75
I would hate to see anyone here take what the author said personally. ShazzieB 3 hrs ago #109
How do you "install" universal healthcare? LisaM 10 hrs ago #103
Myth there are simple solutions for everything but corrupt establishment stops it. betsuni 3 hrs ago #107
While often true, it's not a universal, absolute truth Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #14
But will they continue to vote for the party of progress Keepthesoulalive 15 hrs ago #68
The paradigm has shifted Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #86
I wish I could share your enthusiasm Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #91
The evidence indicates the billionaires are losing Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #98
They will control the House for a generation. mr715 13 hrs ago #94
I think it is important to note that West Virginia mr715 14 hrs ago #92
But why Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #93
White, working class voters. mr715 13 hrs ago #95
West Virginia is one of the most beautiful states Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #97
Republicans told people Democratic environmental regulations would take all their jobs. betsuni 3 hrs ago #108
"centrist, neoliberalism and triangulation, deregulation of energy" -- for example? Blame Democrats! betsuni 2 hrs ago #110
That's true. Janbdwl72 4 hrs ago #105
Worth reading, and here's the money shot... TygrBright 18 hrs ago #15
When I hear him say make Americkkka great again it's really make racism great again! kimbutgar 18 hrs ago #16
great read. mopinko 18 hrs ago #17
I worked in Greenville MS back in 1989 when Boeing had a plant there KS Toronado 18 hrs ago #18
There is in group discussion Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #59
Really wish more on DU would understand this reality. rogue emissary 18 hrs ago #19
It's a shallow combination of ownership within class identity and fear of unknown competition haele 17 hrs ago #50
Yes, artificial and unnecessary division based on falsehood that Democrats "ignore the working class." betsuni 15 hrs ago #71
And these beliefs and preferences are very difficult to counter, even with the "right messaging" Redleg 18 hrs ago #20
The story of the white sharecropper poisoning his black sharecropper neighbor's mule come to mind. Squaredeal 18 hrs ago #21
Jeezus. Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #25
Not all white sharecroppers were racist pieces of crap. MerryBlooms 10 hrs ago #102
Republicans understand this. SamuelAdams 18 hrs ago #23
dumb, dumber, dumbest Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #24
I think they need somebody to look down on. zanana1 18 hrs ago #26
I wonder if there's not some of that going on with "us" TheProle 17 hrs ago #57
Sounds like the older part of my family....MAGATs all BeneteauBum 18 hrs ago #28
This is a "duh" headline..white working class vote their hate for "the other"... agingdem 18 hrs ago #29
Not really "duh" since we aren't used to seeing this from the media, at least in the U.S. Redleg 18 hrs ago #30
The Guardian is British paper...our papers/MSM are so terrified of MAGA agingdem 17 hrs ago #35
... Solly Mack 18 hrs ago #31
Worked in an auto plant just West of Detroit. multigraincracker 17 hrs ago #33
We need to go back to colorblind (if we still can) gulliver 17 hrs ago #34
Yes, this is central to understanding the American project and why it has failed. nt Blasphemer 17 hrs ago #36
"Mississippi Burning" duckworth969 17 hrs ago #37
A great movie- I doubt it would be made today, given the kow-towing to Trump Redleg 17 hrs ago #43
It's because of racism we can't have the nice things that folks have in other rich countries. Fil1957 17 hrs ago #41
And yet...guys like Graham Platner, Zohran Mamdani, Abdul El Sayed biocube 17 hrs ago #42
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #48
And what about brown men with "foreign-sounding names" like Mamdani and El Sayed? biocube 17 hrs ago #54
American Arabs are white adjacent in the minds of many. yardwork 17 hrs ago #56
That's just great. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #82
What rhetoric is Platner using that signals he is a racist? I find your attack on him to be problematic at best. He is Celerity 14 hrs ago #90
What is the point? Cirsium 15 hrs ago #79
Ive pushed back on this for decades Cosmocat 17 hrs ago #52
yes, like Black people have known since forever yobrault1 17 hrs ago #53
While I agree to a point, but it's waaay more complicated than that. paleotn 16 hrs ago #61
We enable that to happen, by ... Bluetus 16 hrs ago #63
Noooooo! We Just Need To UNDERSTAND THEM! TALK With Them! Really.....! ColoringFool 15 hrs ago #69
I live in Pennsylvania and I know plenty of people like that. Alice B. 15 hrs ago #72
I grew up in rural Ohio and I hear it often from people I grew up with. yardwork 15 hrs ago #74
People start framing things like, the "Obama Library" MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #83
Which is why we will never see a black Republican presidential nominee in our lifetimes. Wednesdays 15 hrs ago #80
Saida Grundy nails it Cirsium 14 hrs ago #81
The ruling class uses racism orthoclad 14 hrs ago #85
All American racists love Trump and would never vote for anyone else. Martin68 13 hrs ago #96
Wish i could JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #99
Some eyes are being opened here Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #104
Yes, has The Guardian stamp of progressive approval, no shooting the messenger. All data says same thing. betsuni 2 hrs ago #111
We have made progress in the face of racist forces manipulated by corrupt wealth. We will again. pat_k 11 hrs ago #100
Keeping it sinple and visual. usonian 11 hrs ago #101
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