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Swede

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Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:35 AM Yesterday

re: Platner - But if personal imperfection disqualifies a candidate, Washington DC should empty itself immediately. [View all]

Oliver Kornetzke-

The same apparatus pearl-clutching over Platner right now protected people who voted for catastrophic wars, wrote healthcare bills with the insurance industry at the table, watched wages and housing and rural life rot for 40 years while calling it responsible governance, and still hasn’t managed to hold Donald Trump, his administration, or the Epstein client list of child-fucking sex traffickers accountable for a single goddamn thing. Apply the standard universally or admit you’re not applying a standard. You’re protecting a class. A class with a documented 40-year track record of delivering for billionaire donors and not working class people.

What Platner offers that no DNC substitute can: an attacking theory of the race. Not “we are the reasonable alternative.” Not “we respect the institutions Collins disrespects.” An actual argument with teeth and with real historical weight about power: who has it, who bought it, who writes themselves into every bailout, every crisis, every legislative fix. Who gets called when the bill is being drafted. Who gets thanked in the press release after it passes. Platner can make Collins the face of a rotting system rather than a politician with whom Democrats merely have a personnel dispute. That is a different campaign and a harder one to run against.
The DNC model asks voters to trust the people who already have power. Platner’s model asks voters to take it back.
Democrats don’t need another fucking candidate who reassures billionaire donors that nothing fundamental will change. They need one who can convince voters that something finally might.

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Starting with the WH.................... Lovie777 Yesterday #1
Waiting for the count to chime in. rzemanfl Yesterday #2
I didn't want to disappoint you. Intractable Yesterday #4
Not the one I had in mind, but thanks. rzemanfl Yesterday #6
Oh fun! Can I play? I can "predict" the dismissals, excuses, ignoring of historical facts and attacking the messenger. QueerDuck Yesterday #5
Wish I can RECd you unlimited times ExtraGriz Yesterday #47
It's a given. eShirl 6 hrs ago #94
A dirty fighter is better than a saint. Democrats should not disqualify anyone without a felony conviction. dalton99a Yesterday #3
Really good point - and republicans don't even care TBF Yesterday #13
+1. Democrats should rid themselves of the self-inflicted purity virus and learn to say "SO WHAT" dalton99a Yesterday #15
Graham Platner BComplex Yesterday #44
A dirty fighter..... Horseshoeluck Yesterday #14
Um . WHAT?! "A dirty fighter is better than a saint" BECAUSE?? ColoringFool Yesterday #45
A counter point EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #7
Maine has had perfectly good candidates in the past ... Ritabert Yesterday #9
What makes you think he will bring in independents? SamuelAdams Yesterday #11
Because polling. mr715 Yesterday #19
The last Democrat to challenge Collins led in all the polls... W_HAMILTON Yesterday #25
As I said in other polls, so perhaps we should just grieve. mr715 Yesterday #26
Or elect a better Democrat? This is still the primary, after all. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #27
OK, who do you suggest? I found this on ballot ready TBF Yesterday #31
If it were up to me, i would vote for Mills. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #33
Much like Speaker Gideon, a stalwart Democrat who lost. mr715 Yesterday #37
Platner, this alleged """fighter,""" has never even been in an election to lose. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #48
So support Susan Collins. Just own it. Don't keep shoveling this mr715 Yesterday #51
Except that we are a day before the election TBF 23 hrs ago #61
She's still on the ballot, as is at least one other alternative. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #67
76% Platner, 10% Mills mr715 22 hrs ago #71
Are you saying Sara Gideon wasn't? Emile Yesterday #32
Gideon wasn't what? W_HAMILTON Yesterday #36
LOL Emile Yesterday #38
But our candidate might have a penis. mr715 Yesterday #40
The primary hasn't even occurred yet. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #50
Devote time to taking down Collins rather than staying silent. mr715 Yesterday #53
Implicit in your argument is that we lose with Platner. mr715 Yesterday #39
No, implicit in YOUR argument is that we win with Platner. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #49
All I hear is sound and fury signifying nothing. mr715 Yesterday #52
90% of what you say is your incorrect interpretation of life in general questionseverything Yesterday #10
Of course you do EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #17
THANK YOU!!! niyad Yesterday #12
I hope you will never be judged by a selective, agenda-driven gotcha of your past words and actions. AloeVera Yesterday #20
Weird that you claim to be against selective agenda driven gotcha while being selective yourself EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #35
Robert Byrd... mr715 Yesterday #42
Robert Byrd had actions that demonstrated his change EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #63
So, to be clear, you WOULD vote for former klansman Robert Byrd mr715 23 hrs ago #64
That you failed to point to where Platner has demonstrated that growth and improvement is weird EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #86
I'm not his confessor. mr715 16 hrs ago #88
I have responded in other threads and replies to you, as you know AloeVera Yesterday #59
That's an opinion based on what you desperately want to believe EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #87
If Costello were running against Collins, instead of Platner, who would you vote for? jmbar2 Yesterday #22
He is polling at 3% so evidently they don't want to vote for him questionseverything Yesterday #55
The question is... jmbar2 23 hrs ago #62
Impossible to answer. mr715 23 hrs ago #65
OK, so Platner's probably going to be the candidate. But... jmbar2 22 hrs ago #66
There is campaign activity mr715 22 hrs ago #68
I take personally the gay slurs. I'm surprised at how many people (and which people) appear to be okay with it. QueerDuck Yesterday #23
I'm gay and don't care Sympthsical Yesterday #54
Yep. I couldn't care less if he used the F word. I want him to vote with Democrats and oppose Christian nationalists. Hassin Bin Sober 22 hrs ago #70
Don't forget about rapist Eric Swalwell. mr715 21 hrs ago #73
Some of it is genuinely funny Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #75
No one? Seriously? --- Well, I care. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #78
Oh, there is absolutely privilege at play Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #79
While I deeply respect the work you have done with LGBTQ youth... QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #81
It's a matter of priority Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #85
I appreciate the response, though I think you are creating a false binary. QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #92
I appreciate your perspective and yes those comments are deserving of condemnation. But what might Nanjeanne 4 hrs ago #96
Whether or not individuals within a community use certain language with each other is a personal choice. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #72
This sounds exhausting Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #77
No it's not. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #80
These statements are incendiary in the extreme, and many of these issues cited BComplex Yesterday #57
I support Democrats gab13by13 Yesterday #8
If so many can vote for a Pdeo, Sexual Abuser, multigraincracker Yesterday #16
Simple logic Bobstandard Yesterday #18
AND it's another Democratic butt in a Senate chair to help bring us into the majority, and Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #82
I wish I could vote for him but I'm in Maryland wolfie001 Yesterday #21
That's why I disagree with my own Democratic Representative mvd Yesterday #24
Everything I see says that We the People want to take power from the establishment. flashman13 Yesterday #28
Wrong Framing! We love imperfects! We hate being lied to. delisen Yesterday #29
No party is perfect, but at least we try to get better. mr715 Yesterday #43
Re Platner - if only he had more serious sexual misconduct he could run for POTUS. Vinca Yesterday #30
This is how I voted in the Texas primary - TBF Yesterday #34
If I were perfect, I might have a different attitude Bluetus Yesterday #41
I believe we need to hold our elected representatives to a higher standard, rather than making excuses... QueerDuck Yesterday #46
I don't believe anybody who says they knew all along that Bluetus Yesterday #56
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #58
Okay, FUHGEDDABOUTIT. But One Thing Platner MUST CHANGE..... ColoringFool 23 hrs ago #60
"...personal imperfection..." MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #69
Known as a purity test. Swede 17 hrs ago #83
I get it MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #90
Kick and rec. 58Sunliner 21 hrs ago #74
Bam SuzyandPuffpuff 18 hrs ago #76
"personal imperfections" Is that what they're calling Cha 17 hrs ago #84
I don't know about that MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #91
Whining that Democrats want to "rip my life apart" -- help help they're out to get me! betsuni 5 hrs ago #95
I'm going to take an unpopular position Metaphorical 16 hrs ago #89
Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E 6 hrs ago #93
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