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15. What are suggesting instead?

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OMFG Chicagogrl1 Wednesday #1

MTG got ridiculed for saying the same thing... regnaD kciN Wednesday #2

He's never seen the solar path lights they sell in the stores dalton99a Wednesday #3

I have four different sets of them in my garden and by my door. niyad Wednesday #11

Thanks for that. I don't have outside outlets and would like to have lights outside. Just hadn't thought it through Amaryllis Wednesday #75

You are most welcome. There are so many kinds available. Have fun choosing! niyad Wednesday #76

Costco has had some pretty ones in the past. AllyCat Wednesday #86

Dollar store even has them NHvet 17 hrs ago #105

Burgum wanting a rational discussion on subject he doesn't understand. txwhitedove Wednesday #4

you can't understand something when your livelihood depends on ignorance DBoon Wednesday #23

... eppur_se_muova Wednesday #58

He understands it. He misinforms, gaslights, obfuscates, lies by design. LuvLoogie Wednesday #61

Sinclair Lewis understood Burgum's ilk charliea Wednesday #66

He cannot possibly be this stupid mcar Wednesday #5

Of course he can! Why do you think the puppeteers chose him? niyad Wednesday #7

He, like the rest of the minions, sold his soul to TSF mcar Wednesday #9

You are assuming that they had souls to sell? niyad Wednesday #12

Good point mcar Wednesday #54

Disagree! Ray Bruns 20 hrs ago #95

He is not stupid. Disingenuous yes but stupid he is not. Botany 18 hrs ago #101

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He could be that dumb, and still helping to line the pockets of the niyad Wednesday #8

Extraction, vulture capitalism's engine burns fossil fuel Magoo48 Wednesday #42

He seriously just might be that dumb Seinan Sensei Wednesday #49

Both could be true... AZ8theist Yesterday #92

Actually, the belief that batteries are sustainable is... NNadir Wednesday #10

What are suggesting instead? MadameButterfly Wednesday #15

I willingly take some flak for my position that there is... NNadir Wednesday #19

Nuclear has a role to play liberalgunwilltravel Wednesday #22

I am an expert on this topic, having studied it for decades. NNadir Wednesday #25

Nuclear is fine as part of the solution liberalgunwilltravel Wednesday #28

I am always asked this question, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. NNadir Wednesday #36

For the uninitiated (like me), DME stands for dimethyl ether. TheRickles Wednesday #52

I do not support DME from dangerous natural gas. As is the case with hydrogen itself, exergy is destroyed under... NNadir Wednesday #55

I heard that we can't produce the steel needed for SMRs anymore. SonOfNebanaube Wednesday #79

Chornobyl converted me from being an uneducated antinuke to a well educated nuclear advocate. NNadir 22 hrs ago #93

If you remember the remark made by the nonscientist, Louis Strauss, the "bad guy" in the movie Oppenheimer... NNadir 22 hrs ago #94

What about them? Boo1 4 hrs ago #114

The finest minds of the 21st century understand that nuclear energy is not the only form of sustainable energy. thought crime Wednesday #84

We have a Nuke plant in Kansas and we've been RAPED by it on rates since 1985 Bengus81 19 hrs ago #98

Nevertheless the planet has been raped by fossil fuels. NNadir 19 hrs ago #99

How much do you pay for electricity? hunter 17 hrs ago #107

Maybe nuclear? Mossfern Wednesday #20

You need power liberalgunwilltravel Wednesday #30

Thanks Mossfern Wednesday #59

Hydrogen, whether generated by clean nuclear power or by so called "renewable energy" is a terrible idea as a... NNadir Wednesday #41

Thank you Mossfern Wednesday #60

Well the good thing about admitting one knows little - the excellent thing in fact - is that one's mind is open. NNadir Wednesday #63

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I'm Sorry but what you say is not the whole story. liberalgunwilltravel Wednesday #21

At Field Station Berlin we used lead-acid batteries in our powerhouse jmowreader Wednesday #48

Hmm... the smell: would exposure be detrimental w all that lead or a short time there would prevent that electric_blue68 Wednesday #56

Once the lead is cast into plates and fixed into a cell it's no problem, so long as it stays there jmowreader Wednesday #87

chemical batteries are only one type of battery lapfog_1 Wednesday #32

LFP batteries don't have cobalt (or even nickel) however. Disaffected Wednesday #38

It's always something tomorrow. hunter Wednesday #53

Fusion energy and the hydrogen economy are very iffy alright but, Disaffected Wednesday #73

Magic in the sense that they would allow us to quit both fossil fuels and nuclear power. hunter Yesterday #89

I don't think anyone is seriously claiming batteries will reach utopia, Disaffected Yesterday #91

Sorry to disappoint, but "renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy... hunter 17 hrs ago #106

"renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy..." Disaffected 16 hrs ago #108

There was all sorts of happy talk about renewable energy in China... hunter 5 hrs ago #112

The Trump administration is trying to boost nuclear energy thought crime Wednesday #88

I have spent decades in the primary scientific literature and as a result, I have very little patience for handwaving. NNadir Wednesday #62

Good grief, I'll not waste time trying to respond to all your "points". Disaffected Wednesday #68

Um, kiddie...China is NOT a Luddite country. It's become the world leader in science, since in the US abrogated... NNadir 3 hrs ago #115

Ugh. Disaffected 3 hrs ago #117

Trust me, I'm well aware that there are people who cannot be "convinced" of anything. They're not especially bright... NNadir 3 hrs ago #118

I think we have talked about this before. I am hearing that there are companies that PatrickforB Wednesday #46

In applications that are not sensitive to energy density, USAF Brat Wednesday #57

I used to be totally off grid with batteries but connected to grid and now can watch my electric metor spin backwards womanofthehills 4 hrs ago #113

Rs also like to say when there's no wind blowing KS Toronado Wednesday #13

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I had an experience several months ago with a MAGA about wind energy storage. wnylib Wednesday #70

Also, wind farms are placed in windy places womanofthehills 3 hrs ago #116

He know that.. he's Trumps jester. BradBo Wednesday #17

Literally... BurnDoubt Wednesday #18

This old girl would just say, it seems it can get complicated. Joinfortmill Wednesday #24

Batteries are a regressive tax on low income people... hunter Wednesday #26

LOL popsdenver Wednesday #44

Hoover dam has never produced as much electricity in a single year... hunter Wednesday #67

I guess popsdenver Wednesday #69

The argument against renewable energy is an alternative form of climate change denial. thought crime Wednesday #47

"the sole purpose of which is to assuage the guilt that affluent people feel for their environmentally destructive lifes DBoon Wednesday #85

Doh! Dave Bowman Wednesday #27

Well, batteries Manatee Wednesday #29

Ouch! Chasstev365 Wednesday #31

My outdoor solar lights stay on all night. Are they possessed? twodogsbarking Wednesday #33

The lengths these... relogic Wednesday #34

Yes, and when the sun goes down there is no photosynthesis and the plants all die. dedl67 Wednesday #35

+1 dalton99a Wednesday #40

BURGUM... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #37

An overly simple idea Crawford Wednesday #39

Enough with these "The gentleman..." swong19104 Wednesday #43

"Are you a fucking idiot?" I love that. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #50

The same basic argument is made for wind jmowreader Wednesday #45

I covered the absurdity of this argument previously, discussing the amount of cobalt required to cover a month of... NNadir Wednesday #51

The Tesla 3 battery, the one "currently" manufactured Disaffected Wednesday #83

We're saved then!!!!! A lot has been written about these batteries it turns out, and a full commentary... NNadir 20 hrs ago #97

Don't bother, Disaffected 17 hrs ago #102

Well, I'll comment despite your disinterest on the science... NNadir 17 hrs ago #104

Good one. Please explain this very novel and new concept to me. Thanks. efhmc Wednesday #64

He is his boss's servant D_Master81 Wednesday #65

Although Solar Syastems produce NO POWER at night... WarGamer Wednesday #71

That moment of "sunlight" exposed Burgum to be oasis Wednesday #72

According to Bergum, solar is "intermittent" and not secure Renew Deal Wednesday #74

They are going to complain that some other power source is interruptable during RockRaven Wednesday #77

Genius that one is BillJoeBobBeauregard Wednesday #78

just have to put in this reply and a response to the reply: orleans Wednesday #80

Is there a Nobel Prize for stupidity? Permanut Wednesday #81

Yes. It's called the FIFA Peace Prize. Ray Bruns 20 hrs ago #96

For the next news flash - wind turbines stop generating when there is no wind! Aussie105 Wednesday #82

Australia can become a global energy powerhouse thought crime 18 hrs ago #100

You could put solar panels near hydro dams and applegrove Yesterday #90

That has been done ("stored hydro") but Disaffected 11 hrs ago #111

I'm guessing Burgum self-identifies as an energy expert Torchlight 17 hrs ago #103

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