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50. Do you remember that one reason Obama did poorly in the first 2012 debate?

Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:37 AM

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David Axlerod was concerned that, even having been President, he would appear as an " angry black man" if he did.

As a non Californian, I did not see or hear much of the Porter/staff problem. However, if it is real, one of the most important qualities for President or Governor is the ability to hire competent staff, inspires and empower them, and retain them. The staff for a Congress person is much smaller, but the quality of the team created can make a legislator look better or worse. This should not be considered as just a personality issue as it could impact the ability to govern.

As to Emily's list, if it helps raise money for her it could be a big help. As an endorsement, the fact that she is the only woman in the race polling more than 5 percent, makes her their obvious choice, although if they had grave doubts they wouldn't endorse in the race.

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MEMO: Katie Porter Offers the Strongest Path to Victory in California [View all] Emile Monday OP

Eh, any random Democrat is the strongest path to victory in California Sympthsical Monday #1

I've seen one poll done post Swalwell drop-out: Emerson. 17% Hilton . 14% Bianco . 14% Steyer . 10% Becerra . 10% Porter Celerity Monday #2

Lordy lordy Sympthsical Monday #4

i hope this is not another screwup where the repugs get the top 2 spots with a minority of the votes samsingh Monday #73

Someone needs to explain to me in very simple terms why Katie Porter went from being darling here AZLD4Candidate Monday #3

It's a few things Sympthsical Monday #5

Interesting how it matches the profile of a "bitchy" woman...gee, I wonder who that benefits? OhioBack2Blue Monday #10

The glass ceiling and the "bitchy woman" v. the "strong man" are well documented in this society. AZLD4Candidate Monday #14

People shouldn't mistake abusive personality traits for empowerment Sympthsical Monday #17

I agree, you summed that up well PatSeg Monday #24

I don't think people are doing that.. whathehell Monday #26

People are absolutely doing that Sympthsical Monday #36

I'm sorry, but like some others here, I just don't agree. whathehell Yesterday #122

Um, yeah..Men are 'allowed' to show anger. whathehell Monday #18

Do you remember that one reason Obama did poorly in the first 2012 debate? karynnj Monday #50

Yes, but that example adds whathehell Monday #62

I agree. I remember years ago when there was karynnj Monday #66

When you say she had whathehell Monday #68

Yes karynnj Monday #69

She may be a pain in the butt to work for.. whathehell Monday #70

Also, this is California Sympthsical Monday #23

Except that isn't what it is with her obamanut2012 Monday #31

I'm voting for policies I agree with, not a saint. FDR cheated on Eleanor. Truman was foul mouthed AZLD4Candidate Monday #11

Then let's bring back Swalwell Sympthsical Monday #20

Nah..All offenses are not equal, whathehell Monday #40

It's not just speaking harshly Sympthsical Monday #47

Hmmmm. . .that standard allows Republicans to win AZLD4Candidate Monday #49

How she treats her staff sunnybrook Monday #88

IF you are from California, will you vote for her if she is the nominee or stay home/vote third party? AZLD4Candidate Monday #103

I am not from California sunnybrook Tuesday #120

Yeah..Rape kinda qualifies for that whathehell Monday #54

You are comparing Porter's office management to Swalwell's alleged sexual misconduct? AZLD4Candidate Monday #46

I did not compare them Sympthsical Monday #51

Again, we hold our Democrats to much higher standard. Again, we elect people, not saints. AZLD4Candidate Monday #53

We live in California, for crying out loud Sympthsical Monday #61

Didn't answer my question, so I will ask again. If she is the nominee for governor, since you loathe her so much AZLD4Candidate Monday #71

I see no point in the loyalty oath shtick Sympthsical Monday #106

And I see not point to "oops, she did things I personally don't like so she's not ineligible AZLD4Candidate Monday #109

California does not nominate a candidate from each party for the general election. They have a jungle primary. StevieM Monday #110

Understood. But, let's go with the outside chance the Republican is either #1 or #2 and Porter is the other. AZLD4Candidate Monday #112

I can't imagine any of the posters criticizing Porter wouldn't vote for her over the Republican. StevieM Monday #117

Thank you, exactly obamanut2012 Monday #96

Thanks PatSeg Monday #21

The video with her yelling at the staffer was enough for me. hamsterjill Monday #28

Similar Sympthsical Monday #39

I watched that entire interview. I would have asked one question: "would you demand Republicans do the AZLD4Candidate Monday #52

You're not a politician Sympthsical Monday #57

Only Democrats worry about this. Republicans just put up who will fire people up AZLD4Candidate Monday #59

This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Monday #87

Some people enjoy seeing people abuse others. BannonsLiver Monday #82

Schiff spent $10 million on ads elevating Garvey so he wouldn't have to face Porter in November Fiendish Thingy Monday #38

LOL that's not rigging an election. BannonsLiver Monday #41

Which is partly why I voted for Porter in that race Sympthsical Monday #45

It still wasn't rigged -- Porter used MAGA language obamanut2012 Monday #97

Did she claim vote totals were altered? Fiendish Thingy Monday #101

Claiming the Senate primary was rigged SocialDemocrat61 Monday #6

Ambition makes people do stupid things. Again I ask, will her policy ideas benefit California? AZLD4Candidate Monday #12

No idea SocialDemocrat61 Monday #16

Neither do I, but I want Democrats to win, no matter how flawed they are. AZLD4Candidate Monday #58

I don't live in Pennsylvania either SocialDemocrat61 Monday #74

So then I should still vote for Swalwell? obamanut2012 Monday #32

I don't want someone like taht as Governor, though obamanut2012 Monday #98

I wouldn't call her "toxic." cab67 Monday #7

That is something between her and her staff. How does this affect her policy proposals if elected AZLD4Candidate Monday #13

Katie....Is that you? R0ckyRac00n Monday #19

No. It's a pragamist that puts principle before party and policy before personal attributes. AZLD4Candidate Monday #55

Was teh CA Senate Primary rigged? obamanut2012 Monday #33

See post #37 Emile Monday #44

I don't want to look at another post -- was it? obamanut2012 Monday #75

Here I'll make it easy for you. Read it and you decide. Emile Monday #76

I don't know. cab67 Monday #43

I asked another person this question I will ask you. AZLD4Candidate Monday #56

none of the above. cab67 Monday #116

She rapidly demonstrated herself to be at least "problematic" Happy Hoosier Monday #15

I watched those videos of her screaming at her staff pinkstarburst Monday #90

And, pray tell, who do you support? W_HAMILTON Monday #64

Well, if we're praying and telling Sympthsical Monday #65

I support any Democrat against every Republican. The stakes are too high not to anymore. AZLD4Candidate Monday #104

Since Swalwell is still on the ballot, he is liable to get some votes though MichMan Monday #8

Consider the source of the article DFW Monday #9

Oh, come on, folks, Zackzzzz Monday #25

Do you, like Katie Porter, think the CA Senate Primary was rigged? obamanut2012 Monday #30

It *was* rigged, but not how you think she means it Fiendish Thingy Monday #37

It looks like California didn't buy this silliness. Schiff was always ahead in Nixie Monday #79

Until Schiff started running his ads, Garvey was barely in voters awareness Fiendish Thingy Monday #83

This is quite a stretch. Schiff focused on attacking the republican Nixie Monday #84

It was a calculated strategy Fiendish Thingy Monday #85

Thanks for the sanity. Some people seem to have this unnatural obsessive hatred for this woman SunImp Monday #86

Except what the poster is ridiculous, they are agreeing it was rigged obamanut2012 Monday #95

This is/was nothing more than a desperate juvenile gossip Nixie Monday #91

Well Done, Nixie! Cha Monday #92

Thank you, Cha! Good to see you. It was so annoying Nixie Monday #113

California is an Incredibly Amazing State! Cha Monday #114

So, it wasn't rigged, thanks for answering obamanut2012 Monday #94

All's fair in love and politics, amirite? Fiendish Thingy Monday #99

Source: People who want Katie Porter to be Governor. BannonsLiver Monday #27

No, she doesn't, and I frankly would rather her not be Governor obamanut2012 Monday #29

Just saw that CNN is hosting a debate between the Dem candidates in early May. Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #34

3 upcoming debates chowder66 Monday #89

She is a force of nature and tough as nails, not afraid of anyone, like AOC - usually the smartest person in the room. marble falls Monday #35

Lets not and say we did. BannonsLiver Monday #42

I'll take 218 AOC/Katie Porters in the House and 51 of them in Senate over turncoats like Fetterman AZLD4Candidate Monday #72

Who brought up Fetterman? BannonsLiver Monday #77

Chuck Schumer endorsed him. Emile Monday #102

Ah. BannonsLiver Monday #107

Extremely smart too. Harvard Law and Yale Emile Monday #48

"Strongest path" is a loser's game. Jirel Monday #60

As of now, I'm voting for Xavier Becerra. He has the experience, and doesn't have the baggage Porter does. chia Monday #63

I want to hear California specific vision policies from every candidate haele Monday #67

I like candidates who don't look at a pot of mashed potatoes as a weapon. BannonsLiver Monday #78

There is that, too. Nasty divorces are apparently fair game as we've Nixie Monday #80

Whoa... I had to look that up.. Cha Monday #93

I like candidates who don't have to pass a centrist purity test. Emile Monday #81

It's progressives who are abandoning her Sympthsical Monday #100

Yup, Porter isn't as popular here as in other states obamanut2012 Tuesday #121

Porter doesn't have the temperament to hold that high of a position Raine Monday #105

Keep her away from the mashed taters, that's for sure. BannonsLiver Monday #108

LOL! 😄👍nt Raine Monday #111

Doesn't seem so to me, since a new CA poll I read about today Jack Valentino Monday #115

My take, as someone who lived in her district FHRRK1 Monday #118

Vote for Steyer. We need to win. flamingdem Tuesday #119