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charliea

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40. Reformed Agnostic here.

Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:44 PM

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That is I don't believe in an all powerful entity, but I'm willing to listen if She talks to me directly, right after a clean MRI anyway.
That being said there is no question that Pope Leo is the one with the ethically and morally correct stance.
Moses Johnson, a Baptist "bible-thumper", should open that thing he's thumping. No where in it is praise for war-mongers. He's said something about a 'war doctrine', without stating what he means. The Catholics have defined a 'just war', with a list of specific conditions to start one, and actions that can be taken in one. None of them are met in this war of Trump's choosing. The Catholic Church believes the Pope is infallible when pronouncing doctrine and Trump's error is believing he can successfully criticize the Pope without political cost, but why interrupt him when he's doing it?

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Me. rzemanfl Wednesday #1

Reformed Agnostic here. charliea Wednesday #40

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Religion or not, the pope always has the high ground on moral issues. Srkdqltr Wednesday #2

Maybe they expect the same treatment from the Catholic Church that Hitler got back in the 1930s... Towlie Wednesday #6

I never understood that. Srkdqltr Wednesday #8

Racism flashman13 Wednesday #13

I'm pretty sure... GiqueCee Wednesday #22

There was a moment in 2020 ok_cpu Wednesday #9

And even the Knights of Columbus has sided with the Pope on this. pnwmom Wednesday #14

Ah, but what about... GiqueCee Wednesday #25

They are a cult on the far right edge. Hopefully Pope Leo will eventually let them go. nt pnwmom Wednesday #38

I kind of doubt that. Laffy Kat Wednesday #42

See comment 80. TommyT139 Wednesday #81

How much more $$$$ does the church need? SidneyR 18 hrs ago #95

Looks like it's already underway TommyT139 Wednesday #80

Thank you. I hadn't seen that. ok_cpu Wednesday #44

Does ANYONE believe that Trump... maddiemom 17 hrs ago #96

Having the moral highground over Trump is a given for just about anyone, but TheProle Wednesday #15

I don't consider either abortion or birth control to be immoral; I believe the Pope does. MLWR Wednesday #18

Well...not always. progressoid Wednesday #23

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Another agnostic here (because how can you really KNOW?)... maddiemom Wednesday #35

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His title is a salute to LeoX the Pope who who backed the social gospel that- Yoyoyo77 Wednesday #62

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Sure am. sinkingfeeling Wednesday #11

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Me. nt Susan Calvin Wednesday #16

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Oh, hell yeah! 1WorldHope Wednesday #19

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speak for yourself. TheProle Wednesday #26

Peace. bsiebs Wednesday #45

That I can get on board with TheProle Wednesday #49

As an ex-Catholic and a proud atheist lanlady Wednesday #24

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Me. RetiredParatrooper Wednesday #28

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I'm a devout atheist... GiqueCee Wednesday #34

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Me. Pototan Wednesday #71

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Nope duckworth969 Wednesday #74

Easily! True Dough Wednesday #76

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the enemy of my enemy... mike_c Yesterday #83

Me! City Lights Yesterday #85

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